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2017-03-20 06:30, IP: 64.250.228.220, from United States 10 positive reactions 1 negative
2017-03-19 21:25, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania, you are not so intelligent.
Why do you say Ebo v d Groote Maat is the source of problem? He was barely used while other males were used 100 more times. There is NO ANY proof of the reason of his death. Autopsy was not made.
Let's take a look his pedigree. From his mother side, Barones Eva v Rensloo. Do you remember of Baron Cecar v Rensloo ~ Baron Bryan v Harro's Berg? How long he lived? How many times has he used? Is there any gossip about Baron Bryan? NO. Let's take a look Ebo's father: Egor v d Eland. D0 you know the pedigree of Egor? No? Go and study that pedigree.
How many time was Ebo v d Groote Maat used? How many times he was used for himself giving FULL Ebo genetic? You get me? I hope so.
IF YOU are intelligent enough, go to make a statistic. About every single desdecant of Ebo AND of every other males were used in the dobermann history. Then, you can state your conclusion. Otherwise, stay at home and better you study dobermann and not just telling stupid things on the internet.

Somehow you started to say good things about Pezzano after you somehow got one of his male. Before that, you were telling bad things about his dogs. How that works? And if you NOW accept his knowledge (which is ridiculous, compared to your nonsense knowledge about the race) why do you think he used Astor to Arielle just to get Ebo v d Groote Maat 4 times on the pedigree? Was he aware of Ebo v d Groote Maat will be on his pedigree 4 times? I think so. Was he aware Ebo v d Groote Maat had no any influence of DCM in the race? I think so.

Tell me how many times you saw Ebo v d Groote Maat? How many years you actively spent on shows in all over Europe, talking with breeders week by week? What the owner of Ebo told you? Or you just heard everything from others? Others who wanted to favorize their lines without Ebo? In the time when the line of Ebo was frequently used? You know when this happened? After the heavy use of Hertog Alpha - Jivago - Quirinus. Do you know that from books or from life? You know what lines wanted to get dominance over Ebo? How the story started? I don't need your answer, really. You, so intelligent. You never showed up anything just the gossip.
And I am sure Ebo would take your balls if he would be alive. You would have no any chance.
Herd.

2017-03-19 21:25, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania 0 positive reactions 6 negative
2017-03-10 19:38, IP: 178.149.106.76, from Serbia 1 positive reactions 3 negative
So Romania,
You think Ebo is much more dangerous than Alfa? Is that correct?

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No, is not correct ! Ebo is SOURCE of Alfa problem ! I said that Alfa Citone is a D'acciaio and he was Killed by Ebo !
And EBO genetic is present all around and is source of entire dobermann race problem .
That I said and that is wroted in pedigrees , and facts .

2017-03-19 07:39, IP: 83.204.107.29, from France 4 positive reactions 1 negative
I also see many breeders who once added coefficientsy results of there breedings to there adverts no longer do this is it because they forget? Or because they no longer bother to see how high the coefficientsy is because they no longer care, there just busy knocking out litters to sell at any cost to the breed.

2017-03-10 19:38, IP: 178.149.106.76, from Serbia 3 positive reactions 3 negative
So Romania,
You think Ebo is much more dangerous than Alfa? Is that correct?
Can you please explain why? I'm not an expert, just curious and would like to find a dog healty as much as possible

2017-03-06 08:22, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania 2 positive reactions 10 negative
PS My female is Citone free but I matted her with a 9 years fully Citone male! Because Citone basicaly is a D'acciaio and was the best of showlines .
And I will cut EBO testicles. I know HOW .
Soon

2017-03-06 07:52, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania 0 positive reactions 9 negative
YES, sure there exist. Exist lines without Alfa or Adelante but Fully by Ebo and Lucifer genetic .
ha ha ha. Genial !
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2017-02-26 13:20, IP: 178.149.106.76, from Serbia 2 positive reactions 2 negative
Is there any brreding line or even a single dog without astor or alpha adelante in its pedigree?

2017-02-27 16:40, IP: 178.149.106.76, from Serbia 2 positive reactions 2 negative
Thanks, any female?

2017-02-26 22:10, IP: 87.116.180.114, from Serbia 2 positive reactions 6 negative

2017-02-26 13:20, IP: 178.149.106.76, from Serbia 3 positive reactions 2 negative
Is there any brreding line or even a single dog without astor or alpha adelante in its pedigree?

2017-02-07 23:18, IP: 50.4.44.73, from United States 2 positive reactions 2 negative
Thank you Romania and Poland

2017-02-07 10:17, IP: 5.172.239.185, from Poland 13 positive reactions 3 negative
Of course reconstruction of the dobermann breed is possible and some breeders have already started to use in their breeding program health tested dogs only and low inbred hoping to reduce risk of heart problems. The others do not care at all but what can we do. Elimination of the disease takes many years, this is not something you can fix in one day. No genetic tests available so there is no other option than wiser selection at the moment.

2017-02-05 16:24, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania 11 positive reactions 0 negative
Is almost a impossible situation to avoid ill genetic and we risck to multiply this genetic in arithmetical progression . The reconstruction of dobermann breed is almost impossible .
To stop that we need to change selection mode , to promote any diverse line , any bloodline with some different ancestors , to avoid inbreeding - thisa is almost impossible because back than 4 generations there are only again and again same trend and promoted politically lines .

2017-02-05 16:13, IP: 83.103.226.245, from Romania 11 positive reactions 0 negative
USA, there is not about few responsable dogs ! There is a score of years of wrong political breeding and domination of wrong and ill bloodlines which substituted entire healtly population and put in danger entire race genepool . Is a general systemic problem, not a isolate problem in one kennel .

2017-01-10 23:31, IP: 50.4.44.73, from United States 18 positive reactions 1 negative
If what is said about Pride of Russia lineage is true, which line or dog is believed to be responsible? Just trying to educate myself and maybe help others who are not experts and prospective buyers.

2017-01-09 17:07, IP: 84.147.64.196, from Germany 28 positive reactions 1 negative
Same lineage you find all around... many litters - many puppies - many DCM...

2017-01-09 08:27, IP: 178.157.249.91, from Denmark 38 positive reactions 0 negative
So many dogs from Pride of Russia has died or is diagnosed by DCM. Those lines are poison to our breed

2016-12-18 20:03, IP: 37.248.154.153, from Poland 18 positive reactions 5 negative
Zordan died couple of years ago. Why don't you ask the owner for more information if you are interested? You can find the details in the presentation.

2016-12-15 15:47, IP: 67.239.77.94, from United States 7 positive reactions 6 negative
Can you please share with the rest of us? Many of us are interested in Zordan Zewi.

Thank you.

2016-12-13 20:20, IP: 152.133.8.66, from United States 2 positive reactions 9 negative
I have my answer about Zordon. Thanks

2016-12-12 23:42, IP: 50.4.44.73, from United States 0 positive reactions 13 negative
Do not understand the positive or negative responses to a question with no answers, the only reason I ask is because I cannot find owner of Zordon or I would contact him myself, so if anyone has that info it would be appreciated.

2016-11-27 23:18, IP: 50.4.44.73, from United States 30 positive reactions 7 negative
Does anyone know if Zordon Zewi is still living?

2016-11-23 17:23, IP: 79.69.198.230, from United Kingdom 22 positive reactions 8 negative
Gero vom Nibelungenring
( Vilja vom Klingbach - Harley vom Elbauetal)
29.01.2016 -DCM diagnosed 22.07.2016

Gero was put down 22.11.2016. There were 13 puppies in this litter.

2016-10-30 07:36, IP: 81.50.25.55, from France 51 positive reactions 1 negative
Very sad to see puppies diagnosed with DCM and breeders that don't care

2016-10-26 18:44, IP: 212.21.66.6, from Germany 54 positive reactions 2 negative
And now look around how many litters are breed like this mating and the ancestors you will find in over 80 % of actual breedings... The dobermann-race is death... In few years dobis will die before they can mated...

2016-10-26 17:33, IP: 77.247.181.162, from Netherlands 47 positive reactions 2 negative
"Dobermann DCM Deutschland"

Gambia vom Nibelungenring
(Vilja vom Klingbach - Harley vom Elbauetal)
29.01.2016 - DCM diagnosed 18.08.2016

Gero vom Nibelungenring
( Vilja vom Klingbach - Harley vom Elbauetal)
29.01.2016 -DCM diagnosed 22.07.2016

the complete news is this:
this female born a few pupies with cardio problems(,,DCM"), from different matings!
but, the truth is this: since the female come from Becht kennel, is not possible to have problems! Just imbreeding on Alfa Adelante..and another few dogs, known with heart problems..

2016-10-23 08:29, IP: 64.250.228.220, from United States 52 positive reactions 1 negative
Poor dogs.

2016-10-14 10:54, IP: 79.69.216.44, from United Kingdom 58 positive reactions 5 negative
"Dobermann DCM Deutschland"

Gambia vom Nibelungenring
(Vilja vom Klingbach - Harley vom Elbauetal)
29.01.2016 - DCM diagnosed 18.08.2016

Gero vom Nibelungenring
( Vilja vom Klingbach - Harley vom Elbauetal)
29.01.2016 -DCM diagnosed 22.07.2016

2016-09-11 06:17, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 23 positive reactions 83 negative
Doctor Pezzano was a good man.

2016-09-05 09:18, IP: 2003:66:844c:fa02:84ae:e487:60ff:4ee4, from Unknown 2 positive reactions 34 negative

 

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