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2012-02-21 19:02 • IP: 93.186.23.83 • from United Kingdom
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Thanks Lucy. Glad we have so many people standing up for this! Its really disgusting that people have no self respect! But its ok karma's a bitch!
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2012-02-21 16:19 • IP: 196.215.186.248 • from South Africa
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Wow, someone really has a complex. I really can't believe that you can be so childish and immature and it sickens me that you are making a mockery of her disability. She has done more than her fair share for the breed. I can honestly say that I have one of Donne's dogs living with me ( which makes me a “PROUD DUAL OWNER”) and I own two other dogs which were bred by Donne. She has never ever asked me NOT to enter my dogs if anything, she has encouraged me to enter more shows outside my area and since I have not been able to take them myself she has looked after them and shown them for me. Donne is there for ANYONE who needs advice/help even if she hasn't bred the dog herself. Clearly the person/s who posted that post has ulterior motive.
Shane, you seem to have the same relationship as I do with Donne black and white with no grey areas. Notice how the supposed “co-owned” dog owners are NOT shy to write who we are…… makes you think :)
Thank you to both Donne and Dieter for all the support given to me and showmanship (which is clearly in short supply with some people in South Africa).
LUCY
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2012-02-21 14:59 • IP: 41.243.89.130 • from South Africa
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I think the person who wrote this post about DC Lucas very unfair, how do they know which dogs have been entered anyway unless they are on the committee or privvy to the entries?
I co-own a dog with both Donne' & Dieter & I have never once be told which show I can or can't enter. They both have been nothing but helpful and encouraging to me and my dog.
I think some of the comments that are passed about Donne' are very unjust and a shame that one needs to stoop so low to attack a person on a disability/injury.
I do not normally travel that far to show's, and Donne and Dieter always ask and make arrangements if they want to take the dog or enter him way in advance.
The only thing that is not in the interest of the breed is people like you that are stirring up trouble that is so unnecessary. If you love the breed as much as you say you do why are you trying to cause so much animosity in it?
What I find disgusting is that you have so much to say about Donne' but you are too much of a coward to sign your name.
Please in future do not include me as a co-owner in any of your posts until you have all your facts right.
Sandy Aberdein
(Cape Town)
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2012-02-21 10:53 • IP: 41.133.211.176 • from South Africa
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ooooo.....Before I forget....in case anyone was wondering who and where the person lives that commented about us "CO-OWNERS" and made the shallow statements about Donne....
try.....Kwandengezi,KZN......ouch....thats gotta hurt...you gotta love IP adds....(insert evil laugh here)
You see....its either black or white....no grey area...
And thats how Donne and I roll....coz we cool like that!
-The BIG guy
Shane Goncalves
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2012-02-21 10:46 • IP: 41.133.211.176 • from South Africa
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High 5 Michelle. Never met you but glad you're standing up for it. Pity whoever made the comment didnt have the balls to put his or her name at the bottom!
Spineless!!
Best regards
the big guy Shane Goncalves
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2012-02-21 10:32 • IP: 198.54.202.195 • from South Africa
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In regards to the post on 19th feb, I take extreme offense to this post as i am a CO-OWNER of a dog with DC Lucas, and i do not enjoy reading comments that state i am controlled by DC Lucas, i am my own person and can make decisions for myself and my dog, not ever have i been influenced by DC Lucas on which show to enter my dog in or not enter. I was never INSTRUCTED THAT I MAY NOT ENTER THE NTVL Dobermann Speciality Championship Show, I so happened to be going on a weekend away with my fiance which is a weekend away given to us, we were unable to change the dates.
The issues between DC Lucas and the Redenbacher's are their issues and not my issues, to the poster it's none of your business or issues either, and should stay out of it.
If you want to make comments and statements as you have on behalf of "us CO-OWNERS" you should have got all the details from all of us Co-owners. and if you stand by your statements you should have had at least the guts to put your name under them.
Tell me how your comments and statements are beneficial to our beloved breed
Co-Owner Michelle Aberdein
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2012-02-21 10:13 • IP: 196.25.255.195 • from South Africa
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you said it!
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2012-02-21 08:31 • IP: 41.133.211.176 • from South Africa
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Wow,the fact that people can stoop so low and attack on a persons disability is low. I am truly disappointed in this.I may now no longer enter my dog in a show due to the fact that she is CO-OWNED?
Yes, you read right my Dobermann is CO-OWNED and I DO NOT have any sort of issue with this. And she is CO-OWNED with myself and DC Lucas - Chaldonne & Donnehaus. Donne is always willing to give me advice with regards to any problems with my girl should I require and has not once interfered with the way I do things with her.
I believe there are many spineless people in the world who will attack a person only due to the fact that Donne tells it like it is. Its black or white....no grey...!! And spineless people who attack in such a manner extremely weak of character and therefore it is all grey area for them.
And yes it is true I might not have entered my dog for the show but only due to the fact that I had spinal surgery a few weeks ago and there for can not run around the ring with my Dobe. A breed I have come to love.
You speak of your "beloved breed" and tactics that prevent you from entering a show due to the fact that your dog is "co-owned" and instead of standing up for yourself you would rather attack the person who breed your dog? Clearly you are not a person of substance.
I think you must be a person that suffers from what I like to call "Loose-skin-syndrome"....this is when your asshole occasionally passes where your mouth should be and you end up speaking shit.
Best regards
Shane Goncalves
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2012-02-19 21:57 • IP: 197.170.173.110 • from South Africa
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One Eyed Jack Strikes Again
SUNDAY, 19 FEBRUARY 2012
Poor dual owners with DC Lucas - Chaldonne & Donnehaus
This blog is from us poor Dobermann co- owners in South Africa who are so controlled by Donne Lucas of Chaldonne & Donnehaus Dobermans, who owns the other 50% of our dogs.
Because of the war that continues between DC Lucas and the Redenbacher's, we have all been instructed that we are not allowed to enter the NTVL Dobermann Speciality Championship Show.
Surely this is not in the interest of our beloved breed!!!!! to be bullied into this type of tactic.
Anyone will know who we are, just check which dogs are dual registered with DC Lucas.
This is disgusting to say the least.
We hope you are proud of yourself One Eyed Jack!!!!!
Poor dual owners with DC Lucas - Chaldonne & Donnehause
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2012-02-18 17:22 • IP: 195.93.60.42 • from Europe
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so much discussion here, wow!
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2012-02-10 08:52 • IP: 88.130.40.230 • from Germany
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I agree, all this infantile postings from Markus and his toy friends
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2012-02-10 08:29 • IP: 213.23.84.222 • from Germany
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finally one more person who ist sick and tired of this whole "jahrestal-problem"... we cant hear it any more. we are tired and honestly we dont care about it. admin, please take care that these postings dissappear from here. it is more than annoying.
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2012-02-09 23:23 • IP: 91.56.104.30 • from Germany
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Can anybody stop this idiotic writings about Jahrestal ? We know, we red, but it's enough. Go to court, win , achieve Jahrestal to not be a breeder. But do not f.ck our hads with your idiotic writings on this chatboard. Admin : it isn't enough for you. For us is !!!
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2012-02-09 22:46 • IP: 91.56.104.30 • from Germany
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You do not have else to do just think dobermann-insider who is ?! Great ! That means everything is solved, standard will be not changed and IDC Winners will be the best dobermanns which will compete in the show ! And also IDC siegers ( poor ones) will not get their IPO 1 trial in a very poor exam.
Also Citone will not win just because they are Citone, Nemesis just because are Nemesis, Serbians will not be kicked out from shows or others which are not obedient ! That means that we solved a lot of problems, also the stupid inbreedings on DCM carriers or DCM affected dogs, and the last thing remained unsolved is who the f...ck is Alice ( dobermann-insider)...
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2012-02-09 22:36 • IP: 91.56.104.30 • from Germany
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Wow, you found out who is Darth Wader ! That's great. Now dobermanns will be saved !
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2012-02-09 19:45 • IP: 93.186.31.243 • from United Kingdom
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I've heard that Ferro is dead. Is true?
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2012-02-09 19:43 • IP: 93.186.31.237 • from United Kingdom
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Nibbio is a strong dog but his back angulation is horrible.
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2012-02-09 10:19 • IP: 93.47.28.163 • from Italy
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Pherhaps the secret of great Nibbio's bite is in the Franckenhorst blood in his pedegree in the mother's side.
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2012-02-09 00:05 • IP: 93.200.153.177 • from Germany
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What's about Nibbio's pedigree? Do you know more?
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2012-02-08 23:47 • IP: 75.23.184.186 • from United States
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Liechstenstein:
You let the secret out. Now we will have to start
all over again. This time we will let Camelot in the UK
be the author. Mark has nothing better to do with his time.
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2012-02-08 21:58 • IP: 80.66.224.52 • from Liechtenstein
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I found out who is Insider! look at the first picture:
http://www.dobermann-review.com/show/2012/01-22_StPetersburg_Championship_2012/index.php
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2012-02-07 23:48 • IP: 75.23.184.186 • from United States
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Dobermann Insider.
I could care less who the author is, all I know is that he/she
is spot on with the information. Far too many people making profit off what use to be a sport.
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2012-02-07 22:26 • IP: 86.23.105.134 • from United Kingdom
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Took a look at the insider again for clues as to whom the writer might be.
The english is well written, quite a lot of americanisms though. I'd be surprised to learn the writer is from mainland europe
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2012-02-07 13:06 • IP: 217.232.62.19 • from Germany
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Dobermann-Hündin „Tigris Lewan von Jahrestal"
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren!
Zu Ihrer Information teile ich Ihnen anwaltlich mit, dass die Dobermann-Hündin „Tigris Lewan von Jahrestal“, Transponder-Nummer 941 000 002 184 498, nicht Herrn Alojz Purgaj und auch nicht irgend einem oder einer anderen gehört, sondern allein und ausschließlich Frau Margarethe Nawel aus D-53604 Bad Honnef, wie durch die rechtskräftigen Gerichtsurteile des Amtsgerichts Alzey vom 15.10.2009 und 16.12.2009 festgestellt und durch das Landgericht Mainz durch rechtskräftigen Beschluss vom 16.03.2010 bestätigt worden ist. Die Hündin wurde seinerzeit von Herrn Purgaj unterschlagen und ins Ausland entführt.
Eine Klage des Herrn Alojz Purgaj gegen die Vollstreckung der angeführten Urteile und den Beschluss hat dieser am 26.01.2012 zurückgezogen, nachdem das Gericht ihm deutliche gemacht hatte, dass die Klage keine Aussicht auf Erfolg hat. Bereits vorher hatten das Amtsgericht Alzey und das Landgericht Mainz seine entsprechenden Beschwerden zurückgewiesen.
Die Gerichtsurteile sowie die Gerichtsbeschlüsse liegen mir im Original vor.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
gez. Lischka
Rechtsanwalt
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2012-02-07 11:24 • IP: 88.130.11.68 • from Germany
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no Klingbach
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2012-02-07 00:57 • IP: 188.29.129.126 • from United Kingdom
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i wonder what Herr Dobermann and the other breed creators would think to come back to germany and see there creation in the homeland of the breed ..turned into a muppet to appease people who have nothing even to do with the breed in the first ....its beyond words and an utter disgrace
c
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2012-02-07 00:25 • IP: 86.29.36.239 • from United Kingdom
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the dobermann is always a dobermann cropped or not. but uncropped is only for people which had the "eyes".
The 90 percent of people which want a dog cropped and docked doesn't undestnad if the dog is high quality, they only want the 3 cuts.
nothing more.
in belgium there ia a superb dog uncropped and undocked
BISS. WCh. MCh. ENZO VAN DE DONAUHOEVE in holland there are some amazing dogs also in france, germany not be blind.
I agree but its having freedom of choice. the choice has been taken away from some.
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2012-02-07 00:19 • IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States
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But sometimes I am thinking, many can say that's a stupid thinking, to rennounce to FCI and DV and IDC regulations and create another club just for dobermanns if this stupid thing with ban of cropping and docking will be realised also by change of the breed standard. I do not want to compete with other breeds in shows, I do not want to have titles for my dogs winning other breeds, I just love this breed as it was created and it's a pleasure to meet people which thinks like me in shows or anywhere and to see who has a better dog as conformation or working abilities. But it is not a must to compete. Must is to save this breed by not letting it by fighting till last for the idea for how Louis Dobermann dreamed a dobermann to be.
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2012-02-06 23:58 • IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States
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USA IP: 204.45.133.74, very good post and reasoned opinion on docking and cropping. There certainly were specific reasons why the creators of this breed chose to dock and crop these dogs, one of them being the athletic look, the other the ability to hear sounds better than an uncropped dog. For a guard dog, a larger hearing angle can make the difference between life and death in a critical situation, hence the advantage of cropped ears.
However, I believe it is a pity to give up breeding these wonderful dogs based on a change of appearance and forgetting about what actually makes the dobermann so special to us which basically is temperament, devotion, working abilities.
Giving up on the breed based on these changes is like divorcing your wife after 40 years of marriage because, even though she used to be a gymnast when you married her, she gained a lot of weight and no more looks as she used to."
You are not quite right. My wife even she will be not a gymnast I hope she will not have a tail as she ages, because when I married her she didn't have one:) and hope I shall be let to go with her anywhere even she will not have a tail :)) ,even in beauty shows.
So I shall have my dobermanns till they will die without tail and ear or with tail and ear as I choosed them from puppies age. But to breed dogs is much more different from having a wife.
I hope that my child/children can choose from many many possibilities, not only from super weighted females or males , stupid also , if I could choose when I was young a smart and beautiful gymnast when I married, just to use your metaphoric example.
I shall have a dobe just for me docked and cropped, but why to breed it ?
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2012-02-06 23:42 • IP: 86.29.36.239 • from United Kingdom
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http://inside-dobermann.blogspot.com/2012/01/letter-from-bavarian-lion.html
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