2013-05-18 01:16, IP: 217.43.33.33, from UK

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yeah, it would be far better for this female if she stayed with this 'person'/owner

2013-05-17 12:33, IP: 91.0.175.232, from Germany

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Nice video with dobermanns in it:

http://youtu.be/ZXhAKcz7RtI

2013-05-16 10:38, IP: 91.0.131.29, from Germany

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16mts Old, Pregnant & For Sale. Shameful.......

Also shameful they are allowed to advertise on this website!

2013-05-14 07:14, IP: 213.23.84.204, from Germany

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cowards and pussies change race because of cropping and docking ban or other reasons. real lovers stay with the race until the end !

2013-05-14 05:10, IP: 67.210.103.46, from USA

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9 years ? You are so optimistic !
How much you loved this race if you changed and have no regrets ?

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2013-05-07 21:16, IP: 93.208.217.221, from Germany
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Years ago have also had, at this time it were dobermanns REAL dobis.

If I see this pussy now, breeding dogs with HD 2 and self HD 3 with broken back and from all kinds of illnesses.

The worst part is that they also € 1000.00 to € 1500,00 cost and you very happy if they get the 9 years.

The bigger and thicker and heavier the better it sells.

They all want to breed without searching for a healthy male, just who has the biggest mouth and paid the most for advertising.

Luckily I'm gone over to a different race and have no regrets so far.

2013-05-13 09:00, IP: 97.121.233.43, from USA

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HELLO ALL

2013-05-11 05:41, IP: 94.213.116.72, from Netherlands

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What do I think about 1 negative for a 16 m old pregant female for sale it should be a 1000 negative. It is a pity and only shows the things about dealers for the breed and cashing in quick money.

2013-05-10 10:48, IP: 109.10.12.101, from France

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It amazes me how anyone can click a negative response to some of the subjects discust on this forumc/ chat page, 2 have clicked on negative about DCM 1 for a young female in whelp up for sale with sad individuals like you in our breed no wonder it's in the the state it is in!!!!

2013-05-10 01:29, IP: 98.183.209.220, from USA

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16mts Old, Pregnant & For Sale. Shameful.......

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2013-05-09 23:39, IP: 80.93.6.70, from Ireland

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16mts Old, Pregnant & For Sale. Shameful.......


http://www.dobermann-review.com/for_sale/Shade_Dellafedelissimi/index.php

2013-05-09 15:55, IP: 77.46.200.99, from Serbia

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How are u?

2013-05-08 13:49, IP: 217.43.126.227, from UK

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France, and Ireland - that's exactly what I was talking about - the mass breeders, the mass importers.
If anyone is thinking of selling to the UK and wants to check out the person who is buying - maybe post it on here for a private reply.
The problem is that these people - 'kennels' as they call themselves (in reality nothing more than dealers), sound very convincing to the average buyer who gets taken in by a flash sounding dog.

A friend/acquaintance of ours is currently looking around for a new dog (we aren't breeding any more this year), and contacted two very well known breeders in middle Europe:
One came back with lots of good info and questions. The other just said x is the price. When do you want it? That one is one of the mass breeders. No surprise.
Jay
UK

2013-05-08 07:23, IP: 217.227.0.209, from Germany

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DCM Film now in english:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL4wuv26068


SAY "YES" to an annual CARDIO CHECK for our BREED!

https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/ja-zur-jaehrlichen-herzuntersuchung-der-dobermaenner

Now 1.815 voices!

2013-05-07 21:16, IP: 93.208.217.221, from Germany

11 positive reactions         7 negative

Years ago have also had, at this time it were dobermanns REAL dobis.

If I see this pussy now, breeding dogs with HD 2 and self HD 3 with broken back and from all kinds of illnesses.

The worst part is that they also € 1000.00 to € 1500,00 cost and you very happy if they get the 9 years.

The bigger and thicker and heavier the better it sells.

They all want to breed without searching for a healthy male, just who has the biggest mouth and paid the most for advertising.

Luckily I'm gone over to a different race and have no regrets so far.

2013-05-07 20:38, IP: 188.176.244.38, from Denmark

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Does anybody know where results from Adriatic Cup is shown?

2013-05-06 20:55, IP: 67.159.5.242, from USA

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ZTP, Lodz
Date: 2013-05-01
Place: Lodz, Poland
Judge: Armin Hoppe


Eria Pro Quartz Style V1A
Krasny Drakon Dar Felven V1A
Maximiliano Miratio V1B
Modus Ost Udo Uilliam held back
Cassidy De Terra Mirabili held back
Stay In Style Jaguar held back
Leletton Gold Goldiroy held back

2013-05-03 13:23, IP: 86.46.34.187, from Ireland

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Sad individuals trying to make money/living on dogs. Get a bloodly job and stop selling your cropped puppies in Ireland. Shame on you.

2013-05-03 06:53, IP: 109.10.12.101, from France

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UK..... what about the well known UK kennel that has recently bought a lot of cropped puppies to sell on for profit in the UK who also hide behind a rescue, I wonder how many of those will end up back in there rescue center or someone else's!!!!!

2013-05-01 20:37, IP: 217.43.199.211, from UK

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Anon/UK your post came over as very personal. Not much point getting on a plane to anywhere without an address when someone moves and doesn't tell you isn't it? First time in my life I have ever been described as lazy though.

However, dragging it back to my original post - everyone knows the type of breeders and buyers I posted about - the breeders who literally don't ask one question as long as the money is right. The big kennels who sell entire litters to the US to dealers. I have contacted one of the breeders of the 3 dogs I have been involved with in the past 3 months - and one has written back, but the other 2 - despite acknowledging my first mail (he thought I wanted to buy a dog and told me the price) made no further response. Any decent breeder would want to know. Shame I didn't get the chance before he killed her through greed.

2013-05-01 18:07, IP: 82.132.212.177, from UK

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Put your name to posts on forums like this and things quickly become personalised. You have started name calling straight away: "Cowardly", "personal attack", etc. This not how I choose to conduct myself and I make no apologies for doing so.
I raised valid points and they are best addressed in a logical, non emotive manner. I have no axe to grind you but I do disagree with some of the things you have said and with the manner in which you have said them. I also happen to agree with you with regard to the unscrupulous dealers , be they breeders in Europe or dealers in the UK. But your valid points are lost when you lash out at others.
Name these breeders and these dealers. Anonymity seems to cause you affront so why then do you not do this?
Don't put down first time buyers. Help them and educate them.
Try not to be so aggressive to others who perhaps don't agree with all the things you believe, no matter how deeply felt they may be.
Preaching,bordering on hectoring isn't the best way forward.
If you felt offended by what have said then I too offer my apologies, just as anon Sweden did. It doesn't lessen our case. Rather it strengthens it.
Perhaps there's a lesson there.

2013-05-01 13:38, IP: 217.43.199.211, from UK

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It was only a matter of time before some Anonymous UK jumped in.

Anon/Coward UK (if you're not proud of your opinion why not sign it?!). There is no hypocrisy as despite having given you a personal opportunity to attack me, I repeat - I am NOT talking about the exporters or importers of one or two dogs - things can go wrong for any breeder. What I am describing is the kennels who breed many many litters each year and sell the puppies en masse - usually to people who have never even owned a Dobe before. You're okay with that are you AnonUK? You don't mind the huge number of imported puppies and dogs being sent in which rescues have to deal with now? Just because it has a fancy crop and dock? Really? You must be in a bubble if you don't see the problem going on.

Many people - here and in Sweden, know the efforts I made to contact the owners of Hermione after they split up (the contact prior to that was very regular), so no there is no hypocrisy as things can go wrong for anyone. Anon/Sweden has already kindly acknowledged that she presumed I was one of the breeders who didn't care, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

2013-04-30 07:42, IP: 82.132.236.191, from UK

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The recent posts from the UK smack of hypocrisy. Having denigrated other breeders for having failed to check out the homes in the UK that they were sending pups to , when it was highlighted that they themselves had done exactly the same thing in Sweden their response was to say that at the time there was no forum for example to aid them. Despite in their first post saying that any good breeder would have contacts to enquire about potential buyers. Would seem they are exempt from the standards they set for others! Also in attacking anonymous Sweden for not contacting them about Hermione are they not conscious that they have not contacted the breeders who they are attacking? Double standards perhaps? Instead of attacking anonymous Sweden they should be thanking them for the actions they took to protect the welfare of their dog. Having been too "lazy" to go and check on the welfare of their dog, be grateful that someone cared enough to take action!

2013-04-29 23:38, IP: 217.43.199.211, from UK

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Thank you for your apology. Accepted. You are right - it can happen to anyone, and it happened to me. Short of going to Sweden (I had no address for him after he moved), I tried everything to get in contact with that wretched man, asking everyone I could think of. No wonder he didn't answer the phone when I finally got a number for him. He knew I was after him.

Since the UK docking ban (cropping was banned here hundreds of years ago), there has been a big increase in British people contacting mainly Eastern European kennels wanting a cropped and docked dog. That is fine - no problem with that IF they have done their homework, (Debbie I know always asks for references/background information and always takes her dogs back or re-homes if needed), but it's this lazy internet buying and selling- when new owners (some have never even owned a dog before) just want delivered prices and can't be bothered to go out to see the dog or parents whilst the breeders never asks one question, helps arrange delivery and aren't around to help when things go wrong.

Jay

2013-04-29 17:11, IP: 93.94.175.160, from Sweden

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What i did and didnt do!!I CALLED the Police and the Environmental Office AND the Swedish Board of agriculture where i made the complane to them ..About the dead dogs and what was going on there.Starwing dogs standing i feces in the basement!they had a daycare for dogs.One dog died there when it was in A****** and M***** care taking!
I and 3-4 other called in and complained .So its because and thanks TO ME and THE OTHER ONES WHO CALLED IN THAT THEY DONT HAVE THE KENNEL ANY MORE!!!!So thank you wery much .No more dogs have to suffer any more!
So i and everyone else who called in, did everything in our power to shut them down and we succeded.A*****s has taken puppies after that ..BUT WHITOUT ANY KENNEL NAME,he has a new girlfriend so thats easy in sweden to take new litters.You can take 2 litters whitout register a kennel.Easy money to them,they dont give a f*** about anything else.Those people are cold hearted!!Than its wrong when everyone knows in this country what has happend. To mate whit hes bitch!My point was not to say anything bad about you and your kennel. Because you could not know anything!I just wanted to point out that itÂ's not easy to find the perfect puppy buyer!It can happend to anyone! No one is perfect as a Breeder or puppy buyer. Because i have seen in earlier Posts that People are calling puppy buyers less intelligent because their choise of Breeder! But in this Dobermann world its not easy to pick a breeder first time for everyone. And me being Anonymous Sweden itÂ's because this shit has taken so much time and energy of my life. So i will keep being that. I apologize to you Jay Horgan .Its not your fault.

2013-04-29 17:07, IP: 90.62.185.183, from France

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I am in agreement with Jay, Anonymous Sweden why the hell did you not contact her if you new this female was being kept in such bad conditions, if one of my dogs was being kept like this i would hope somebody would tell me so i could do something about it !!
Debbie

2013-04-29 11:52, IP: 217.43.199.211, from UK

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'Anonymous Sweden'

If you had been reading this chatboard a few years ago, you would have known that I would probably have to be held back from attacking Andreas Hansen for having killed Hermione with his greed - despite 3 big litters, he had another from her at 7 yrs and didn't take her to the vet when there was a puppy left inside - her tired uterus was weak from too many previous puppies.

IF you also looked closely at Aritaur Hermione's home page on our site, you will see it has obviously not been touched since 2006.

My mistake in selling her to them, was that I didn't check them out thoroughly enough - we didn't have FB or forums then.

HOWEVER - where were you then? What did YOU do about it? Did you think to bother to tell me? I knew nothing until right now, about the conditions she was kept in because after he and Meral split, he has still to this day never replied to one of my many phone calls, emails and letters. The owner of the stud dog last used on Hermione will tell you I asked him for new contact details or to ask him to check on her. I had emails from people with his contact details - no reply. I thought she had just been overbred - until now, I didn't know how she was kept. So why the bloody hell didn't YOU tell me?? You could even have been anonymous like you are now! Did you not 'want to get involved' despite a dog suffering? Bit bloody late now to point fingers when you did nothing isn't it!

My point is that many of us export and import dogs and there are some super good breeders and super good buyers. However, the dealers - and people who sell en masse are the ones I am openly criticising because only one thing motivates them - money.

Thanks for doing nothing - anyomous from Sweden.

Jay Horgan

2013-04-29 08:26, IP: 217.227.41.95, from Germany

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DCM Film now in english:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL4wuv26068


SAY "YES" to an annual CARDIO CHECK for our BREED!

https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/ja-zur-jaehrlichen-herzuntersuchung-der-dobermaenner

Now 1.614 voices!

2013-04-28 16:18, IP: 84.99.117.231, from France

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Pour la première fois, je dirais que haut et fort que je suis honteux d'avoir fait partie du Dobermann Club de France ! HONTE à Serge Debski, Jean-Paul Godart et Richard Bredin ...HONTE à vous !!!

For the first time, I would say that loud and clear that I am shameful to have been a member of the Doberman Club of France ! SHAME to Serge Debski, Jean-Paul Godart and Richard Bredin... SHAME to YOU !!!

DUGARDIN Laurent

2013-04-28 06:58, IP: 93.94.175.160, from Sweden

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Ohh Ariatur Hermonie wonderful home she went to!You show proudly her picture on your homepage. She had dogs in her basement standing in their feces,starwing to death.She got animal prohibition.She had to give up her Kennel name and everything.Did not take out the pedigrees and give them to the puppy buyers. The Environmental Office,went there and when THEY went inside the house it was awful to see what they saw. The woman from the kennel went missing "hid" her self i STHLM. Ther the police office found one of her dogs wandering around by her self in STHLM. Bojana de Galius. People is calls lots to day and asks about her she smugglers dogs and sells them whitout papers and swindle money from innocent people.So worst kennel/Breeder on your homepage dont throw stones in glass house.

2013-04-28 05:01, IP: 75.23.184.186, from USA

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Jay Horgan:
Bravo on such a good post, you are spot on.
My breeder once told me that it is important to know who to go to but far more important is to know who to avoid.