2012-01-30 16:32, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States

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2012-01-30 10:59 • IP: 195.93.60.42 • from Europe 4 positive reactions         9 negative

the only hope for a healthy future are del citone dobs!
thats fact."

I think you had a writing mistake, forgetting some words. But I complete your text :

the only hope for OWNERS OR BREEDERS TO WIN AT IDC AS a healthy future are del citone dobs TO MATE WITH
thats fact."

2012-01-30 11:32, IP: 93.138.40.97, from Croatia

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Tha't s the best joke I've heard in a long time!
Way to go! lol

2012-01-30 10:59, IP: 195.93.60.42, from Europe

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the only hope for a healthy future are del citone dobs!
thats fact.

2012-01-29 22:37, IP: 188.28.138.169, from United Kingdom

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http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/modules/pedigree/dog.php?id=546
ero v frankenhorst dcm confirmed by owner....inbred on v eichenhiem ..to hella v forell
c

2012-01-29 20:33, IP: 188.28.138.169, from United Kingdom

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yes and the further inbreeding on ebo has worsen it even more
c

2012-01-29 20:31, IP: 188.28.138.169, from United Kingdom

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yes your correct gb ...and as we know vilja came to england ...all the known problems dogs all go back to these dogs on many sides of the pedigree ...the inbreeding on Amarilda v.d. Wachenburg to
Alva v frankenhorst brought the problem straight through to the present day distant inbreeding on these lines
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/modules/pedigree/pedigree.php?pedid=49
c

2012-01-29 20:18, IP: 86.29.113.39, from United Kingdom

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and Hello v Forell is behind Ebo v d Groote Maat

Need we say more

2012-01-29 19:57, IP: 86.29.113.39, from United Kingdom

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c , please ...
the mother of Andy Eichenhain is ??
is?

Hella v Forell. A daughter of Vilja Germania a suspect DCM carrier

2012-01-29 19:51, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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Great post USA 204."But all of you usually are so vocal like fish when you are in front of them"
That is valid for ALL the clubs ! If somebody open the mouth is anihilated by..coleagues....
Then..Dobermann insider have right to remain hidden , is one from solitary wolfs which have the power to said the truth !

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"You are so right Hungary, go to Mr. Dohoczki and Erika and tell them what your HDK members want! But all of you usually are so vocal like fish when you are in front of them. Tell them that it was a disgrace that they accepted and encouraged with their behaviour the ass kick which serbians got at IDC or the owner who had serbian dogs at IDC 2011 in Hungary, or you are over saturated that some kennels very close to Pezzano from Hungary are pushed to win , others have maybe some little crumbs usually. Tell them to say im congress loud and clear to Wiblishauser that Hungary club members are against changing the breed standard."

2012-01-29 19:33, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States

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"2012-01-29 14:57 • IP: 46.107.167.60 • from Hungary 3 positive reactions         2 negative

I think the President has found him /she/they already. The insider is not better than the President and his followers.I wonder what kind of a person he/she/they are. They must be very envious people if not they would not use so much time complaining .
The fault comes from the IDC members , they should speak out what their country want. DV Germany has not the right to tell people outside Germany what to do or not. I think most of us we live in a democratic country. Are you a member of club you have the right to vote .It is very easy to stand outside the circle and complain .
Why do not the insider tell what is going on in Serbia, Croatia,Italy ,France ,Hungary , Slovenia ,Russia etc. and not to forget the Finland and the Baltic countries. It would be interesting to hear what the Insider has to say about them.
And the Dobermanns did not live so much longer in old days either.We have to day also dogs living to 12-14 years. The only difference is that we know more about it and most of the dogs are too big which often turn out in a heart problem."

You are so right Hungary, go to Mr. Dohoczki and Erika and tell them what your HDK members want! But all of you usually are so vocal like fish when you are in front of them. Tell them that it was a disgrace that they accepted and encouraged with their behaviour the ass kick which serbians got at IDC or the owner who had serbian dogs at IDC 2011 in Hungary, or you are over saturated that some kennels very close to Pezzano from Hungary are pushed to win , others have maybe some little crumbs usually. Tell them to say im congress loud and clear to Wiblishauser that Hungary club members are against changing the breed standard.

2012-01-29 18:49, IP: 188.29.84.14, from United Kingdom

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yes usa she is the mother of andy v eichenheim ...be interesting what ero v eichenheim died at 7 years of....as he was inbred to andy .....upto the present day ..it seems all problem dogs will be distant inbred ...through some frankenhorst to ..eichenheim and hella v forrell
c

2012-01-29 18:36, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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c , please ...
the mother of Andy Eichenhain is ??
is?
Hello V Forell.

2012-01-29 18:34, IP: 188.29.84.14, from United Kingdom

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http://www.dobermann-pedigrees.com/index2.htm

2012-01-29 18:33, IP: 188.29.84.14, from United Kingdom

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interesting if the problem was the inbreeding on hella v forrell ..which was owned by v eichenheim kennel
http://www.dobermann-pedigrees.com/index2.htm......that would mean all distant inbreeding on these dogs there could be problems ....thats the downside of phenetype only breeding ....
c

2012-01-29 18:29, IP: 188.29.84.14, from United Kingdom

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as said before all dogs that go back to v eichenhaim.....whether it be through frankenhorst or not seem to have problems ....anyone know how ero died? ..you noticed the inbreeding on v eichenhaim .,...
http://www.dobermann-pedigrees.com/index2.htm
c

2012-01-29 18:17, IP: 86.29.113.39, from United Kingdom

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People hate bosses .This is somebody from DV who lick they ass by day, but when he come home, by night, he become insider :)

and has a new name "the masked assasin"

2012-01-29 18:10, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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only for your info , HOMO mean 1 from father and 1 from mother .
Thank you very much .

2012-01-29 18:08, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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Ip 82,
if Nike direct descendant (son/daughter) was diagnosed with DCM HOMO (HOMO !!!!) , please make a brain effort and said if Nike has or not the DCM genes.
thank you.

2012-01-29 17:24, IP: 82.125.55.50 , from

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if you think vwd and DCM are the some than Nike was DCM carrier. Nike died in 12 years and he is not died from DCM.

2012-01-29 17:23, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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Hungary, bla bla bla
"The fault comes from the IDC members , they should speak out what their country want. "

Waiting to Erika to talk. :-)

2012-01-29 17:19, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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France, bla bla bla
Nike was DCM carrier and has DCM progeny too (see American test).
Renewals bring many problems in dobermann race.

2012-01-29 16:03, IP: 188.29.84.14, from United Kingdom

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size is no excuse for inbreeding on dogs with dcm ...if anything with the known info now people should not be still inbreeding on thiose dogs ..all the info is out there now
c

2012-01-29 15:57, IP: 82.125.55.50, from France

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I agree Insider is not better from the President and his followers. Maybe he/she/they are even worse. But I don't agree DCM is connected with size. I know big dogs who lived long, Baron Nike for example and many (most) not so big sized dog who died from DCM.

2012-01-29 14:57, IP: 46.107.167.60, from Hungary

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I think the President has found him /she/they already. The insider is not better than the President and his followers.I wonder what kind of a person he/she/they are. They must be very envious people if not they would not use so much time complaining .
The fault comes from the IDC members , they should speak out what their country want. DV Germany has not the right to tell people outside Germany what to do or not. I think most of us we live in a democratic country. Are you a member of club you have the right to vote .It is very easy to stand outside the circle and complain .
Why do not the insider tell what is going on in Serbia, Croatia,Italy ,France ,Hungary , Slovenia ,Russia etc. and not to forget the Finland and the Baltic countries. It would be interesting to hear what the Insider has to say about them.
And the Dobermanns did not live so much longer in old days either.We have to day also dogs living to 12-14 years. The only difference is that we know more about it and most of the dogs are too big which often turn out in a heart problem.

2012-01-29 14:19, IP: 188.28.27.201, from United Kingdom

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i personally think the person behind doesnt give a damm if he is sued ...question is if replaced who in germany is good enough to take over the job?
c

2012-01-29 13:52, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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Russia , you catched the idea :-)

2012-01-29 13:20, IP: 84.23.53.54, from Russia

4 positive reactions         1 negative

People hate bosses .This is somebody from DV who lick they ass by day, but when he come home, by night, he become insider :)

2012-01-29 12:52, IP: 67.210.97.252, from United States

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For sure, is somebody infiltrated on DV and president , somebody which know all dirty details :-)
Remaining that Mr. president to find the traitor :-)
till the president will find him , we will read many other interesting stories .

2012-01-29 12:26, IP: 84.119.23.235, from Austria

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Now all suspicious insiders will be sued "big style" by the DV.

2012-01-29 06:53, IP: 109.45.0.11, from Germany

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who cares who the dobermann insider is ? it is not important at all who it is. it is better, that noone knows who it is, because eitherwise this person would be sued "big style" by the DV and we would no longer get to know all the dirty details.