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2014-05-05 19:27, IP: 62.165.228.160, from Hungary 3 positive reactions 2 negative
There are good dogs Jahrestel!! Not one.

2014-05-04 18:54, IP: 93.103.178.190, from Slovenia 1 positive reactions 1 negative
I see he has adress from Slovenia. Are the puppies registered in Slovenia???

2014-05-04 07:49, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 7 positive reactions 2 negative
poor dobermann breed , money industry

2014-05-03 16:11, IP: 82.7.196.181, from UK 14 positive reactions 1 negative
A word of warning from previous advise on this post. We too bought a imported Doberman from mikjulora and despite paying over £2000 for our lovely boy we have still not received his pedigree papers as promised. Nearly 18 months later on contacting Mick to request these papers we were sent aggressive emails telling us not to contact him again. It's up to you whether you heed this advise or not but I felt I had to say something. Mick was great when taking our money, and we were also duped at the time however he has shown his true colours since. We are now in the process of instructing legal proceedings again mikjulora and having to pay out for solicitors just to get the pedigree we were promised.

2014-05-03 06:57, IP: 94.213.116.72, from Netherlands 5 positive reactions 1 negative
it is not taping like you do with pups ofcourse but just little things like a little tape in the inside of his ear people do no even notice it And for your concern the Dog is the star in the family And had a great life.

2014-05-01 16:10, IP: 24.217.218.237, from USA 6 positive reactions 7 negative
Taping 2.5 years? Poor dog. Please think twice what is more important: you or your dog???

2014-04-27 22:50, IP: 46.252.74.106, from UK 3 positive reactions 1 negative
Thank you for the reply from the Netherlands.

2014-04-27 09:51, IP: 94.213.116.72, from Netherlands 8 positive reactions 1 negative
just taping, I had a dog and the vet said that his ear would never stand up because it felt thinner than his standing ear and a breeder told me it is never standing and so on, but I kept taping and at 2,5 years it was standing for the rest of his life, so do not worry.

2014-04-27 04:42, IP: 46.252.74.106, from UK 2 positive reactions 1 negative
Hello I have a Dobermann bitch of 10months whose ear has just dropped what is the best way to get this ear to stand apart from re-tapping it any advice welcome.

2014-04-19 06:27, IP: 88.130.54.124, from Germany 7 positive reactions 8 negative
Frohe Ostern ;-)
Cool Charme & Alojz

2014-04-18 07:10, IP: 85.31.12.245, from Austria 5 positive reactions 2 negative
Also langsam gehen mir Ihre Kommentare auf den Geist!

Es ist mir Egal wer Sie sind und welches Problem Sie mit Herrn Purgaj auch haben,
ab ständig solche Beiträge zu lesen muss ich nicht und es wurge glaube ich genug
meinungen übern Herrn Purgaj in diversen Foren geäusert.

Die meisten Leute die hier den Chat lesen werden sich wohl genug mit diversen Linien
auskennen und es bleibt denen auch überlassen sich einen Hund von Herrn Purgaj zu nehmen
oder auch nicht!

Frohe Ostern

2014-04-17 11:49, IP: 87.184.25.165, from Germany 6 positive reactions 3 negative
Ist schon komisch wie man seine Linie auf früh verstorben Hunde aufbaut

und immer wieder in diese Linie herein züchtet.

Das die Leute sich dort auch noch Welpen kaufen.

Herr von Jahrestal: Eigenlob stinkt ;-)

2014-04-17 07:30, IP: 88.130.28.40, from Germany 6 positive reactions 4 negative

2014-04-15 10:56, IP: 88.130.57.153, from Germany 5 positive reactions 2 negative
For all my French and german friends

http://www.dobermannclub.de/dcmgen/mitwirken.html

2014-04-15 10:53, IP: 88.130.57.153, from Germany 6 positive reactions 2 negative

2014-04-13 07:59, IP: 87.184.2.176, from Germany 10 positive reactions 4 negative
2014-04-12 22:44, IP: 178.32.181.104, from France 5 positive reactions 0 negative

As far as I know Jahrestal was registered in Serbia before they banned him from over there because it turned out that he was Slovenian living in Germany and for some other things too. I think you can reach him through his agent that extra kilo boy who works propaganda for food and shelter.


WHO IS THE EXTRA KILO BOY?

2014-04-12 23:24, IP: 192.42.116.16, from Netherlands 48 positive reactions 0 negative
You all talk about gene pool from the aspect of health which is quite alright BUT anyone of you is really talking about other important things such as mentality or physical condition for working tasks this breed was meant to fulfill .
ZTP is perfectly fine, not only from the point of character but also from the point of exterior and anatomy. Ok the guidelines are not always being met due to corrupted politics but some marks have to exist otherwise it would all come on per "I swear it's true" basis, set by owners or breeders. Furthermore most of the dogs have fake IPOs because it is so easy to do and because it is champion title condition it is much needed and much in demand. This community must get insight and deliver the knowledge in its wider spectrum otherwise it is all just on a conspiracy level, all for money and quick sales based bullshit stories by individual breeders and some stories they are. Talking about lines, heads, so called history on the latter - as if they made it anyway.
I am almost positively sure that 99% of so called experts have no clue about anatomy too. Correct anatomy, to be exact. Such terms as scapula, carpus, femur, sacrum, metacarpus does hardly ring any bell in your self imposed ME. Most of your judgements are based on personal preferences and the way you, and most probably wrongly so, see this breed while not many of you doesn't even know "the standard of the breed" because it displays the ugly truth about your own breeding and your own dogs. So let's forget the standard. F**k it! It is not important because you fear that in fact your customers and some judges too knowing it for real might decline your own sales and let's face most of you in this for one reason only - the money. Otherwise you wouldn't know what to do in your lives although cattle or pig breeding might seem interesting judging on majors' puppy mill level production. And why not a solid pig can reach some 200 kilos which is just about shy of 3 times weight of nowadays Dobermann males. Right?
Some of the "known" breeders are constantly blabbering about the head but hardly any of them is talking about what is or should be in it. Then it all comes down to statuesque dogs with little or no desire to work at all. Yes the head should be strong but not Great Dane type with squarish brickish muzzle capable of nothing and that trend my friends will leave to inevitable danger of underbite, something that some of you are keeping as secret from the customers. And then there are other things. If the dog has white spot, cut it out; if it has bad hips, fake the result; if it is not able to pass the breeding test, claim it irrelevant and so on, and so on while most of the followers are nodding their heads in approval on anything those half-experts are claiming because being stupid is still so much more than being ignorant or worse. It has all come to self promotion which is being projected on willing and mostly lazy buyers and that's how it works. Everyone wants overnight success and it's never been about the breed but about about ugly greedy and glory eager personalities that gravitate around it.

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2014-04-12 22:44, IP: 178.32.181.104, from France 28 positive reactions 3 negative
As far as I know Jahrestal was registered in Serbia before they banned him from over there because it turned out that he was Slovenian living in Germany and for some other things too. I think you can reach him through his agent that extra kilo boy who works propaganda for food and shelter.

2014-04-12 20:03, IP: 87.184.40.12, from Germany 2 positive reactions 31 negative
Hello everybody,

I will visit the best dobermann kennel Jahrestal to see the longlived dobs.

Have someone the adress from this exellent kennel?

I'm on holiday in Slovenia next time

2014-04-12 16:11, IP: 193.200.150.82, from Europe 5 positive reactions 0 negative

2014-04-12 06:34, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 2 positive reactions 1 negative
Is HORIBLE what happened with dobermann today and nothing remained unaffected . This system complettly affect entire race genetic as a PIOVRA , EBO genetic is all around . Nothing remained . By 20 years , our ROmanians dobermanns , old and new lines , are killed one by one ,from a longevive dobermann remained a ruine which broke the heart of ROmanians breeders !
I am verry sorry , the fury grow in my and our hearts for every losted dobermann and killed dog .


last Weinberge

2014-04-11 21:29, IP: 79.119.170.162, from Romania 5 positive reactions 1 negative
Casanova Von Gini House died today at age 6 , DCM for sure :( . What happened with this breed ? Some breeders destroyed it with stupid inbreedings. What lines are free by DCM ?!!!! What lines are free of dogs died by DCM ?! If somebody can say us maybe something can be done, otherways all will be finished soon !
Csaba

2014-04-11 05:37, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 2 positive reactions 1 negative
YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME ? IN ATACK , GIVE TO DOG THE SLEEVE AND GO TO THE OWNER AND START A REAL ATACK AND HIT REAL THE OWNER (HIT STRONG IN HEAD , MAYBE IN THIS MODE HE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS ACTOR IN A COMEDY) .
PAROL ?

2014-04-11 05:32, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 4 positive reactions 1 negative
p.s. Using hunting insytinct ,dobermann is learned to bite because dobermann , NATIVE forgoted to bite and his brain is not so smart for a REAL situation . PAVLOVLIAN RECORERED Biting test Is a joke WHICH DESTROYED REAL DOBERMANNS !

2014-04-10 16:58, IP: 94.189.172.205, from Serbia 3 positive reactions 0 negative
AL SERE OVAJ RUMUN(rumunka) ZA MEDALJU.....SVE SAMI TEORETICARI...MOJ DO MOJEGA...

2014-04-10 16:13, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 4 positive reactions 2 negative
Your dobermanns are fcused on balls ! Many balls ! They love balls and balls substituted the ORIGINAL BRAIN !
By score of years you select dobermann breed with bals and trainers !
Your dobermanns are focused on food .
This is NOT selection ! Is only a PAVLOVLIAN recordered game which promote show dobermanns incapable to think , to be smart . Do you know PAVLOV ? A PAVLOVLIAN test is a repetitive thing which produce a AUTOMATICALY REFEX.
That you did with yours trainers in dobermann breed and YOU REQUEST PAPERS and REPETITIVE STUPID BH for ZTP and Selection . IF THE DOG IS OBEDIENT and PAVLOV WILL PASS THE STUPID BH as PRINCIPAL CONDITION FOR ZTP .
OBEDIENCE AND PAVLOV KILL DOBERMANN BREED !
Dobermann , from a fantastic inteligent dog was transformed in a PAVLOVLIAN dog with frog eyes when saw a BALL or for a promised little food piece !
The PROUD of dobermann , his fantastic capabilities was substituted with PAVLOVLIAN dogs with PAVLOVLIAN again and again same genetic .

Think to that !
Bye .

2014-04-10 16:02, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 4 positive reactions 2 negative
Quote " ZTP is shit, makes real pussy of dogs, doberman on ZTP isolation test should bite an unknown man when approached him, and not to be quiet, a fictional test for manipulation of the IDC and the Germans to take the money, it's a bullshit, and another thing-cropping , coupling, coupling and still just a cropped Doberman, dangling ears and long tail dog IS NOT DOBERMANN BUT SHIT, Germans = MURDERERS OF BREED DOBERMAN .... "


NOT EXACTLY !
The dobermann must be SMART ! A real doberman know then must to bite and when no .
Unfortunately this test nothing prove and , is true, promoted pussicats which make pee on them when saw a real pussicat ! The ZTP test and MODE to apply , make him INCAPABLE for real selection .

make a test with your Champions , a REAL atack without bite sleeve . majority your champions will be down from the MOON . Because his inteligence , his native guardian instuinct was SUPRIMED generation after generation and valorose dobermanns was ELIMINATED from breeding stoc and remained blind pussicats and ROBO-ELEPHANYTS .

Bye .

2014-04-10 13:34, IP: 195.178.37.106, from Serbia 7 positive reactions 0 negative
2014-04-01 09:33, IP: 94.189.172.205, from Serbia 16 positive reactions 0 negative
ZTP je sranje,pravi picke od pasa,doberman sam na vezu treba da ujede nepoznatog coveka kad mu pridje,a ne da bude miran,izmisljen test za manipulaciju na Idc-u i da nemci uzimaju pare,obicno sranje,i druga stvar-KUPIRANJE,KUPIRANJE,KUPIRANJE I UVEK SAMO KUPIRANI DOBERMANI,KLEMAVO I REPATO NIJE DOBERMAN NEGO GOVNO OBICNO,NEMCI=UBICE RASE DOBERMAN....

ZTP is shit, makes real pussy of dogs, doberman on ZTP isolation test should bite an unknown man when approached him, and not to be quiet, a fictional test for manipulation of the IDC and the Germans to take the money, it's a bullshit, and another thing-cropping , coupling, coupling and still just a cropped Doberman, dangling ears and long tail dog IS NOT DOBERMANN BUT SHIT, Germans = MURDERERS OF BREED DOBERMAN ....





DSM: I have heard that judges now do not feel comfortable passing a dog that acts aggressive on the ZTP tie-out/isolation test, rather than being friendly with the judge. Do you think an aggressive response in this ZTP isolation test should still be allowed, so long as the dog shows readiness to bite confidently, rather than being cowardly and "fear biting."
LERNER: We have to distinguish between pretended aggression, and aggression which comes out of the proper "personal prestige" drive. A responsible judge recognizes whether the dog is aggressive because of his drive, or because of his fear, and he will make the right decision.

2014-04-10 03:40, IP: 98.113.15.45, from USA 0 positive reactions 1 negative
hmmm please tell me more about these sluts from the Scandinavian countries! Now you have my attention!

2014-04-09 20:25, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 4 positive reactions 0 negative
hai capito ? the sistem is under quake.
will down .

 

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