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2015-11-30 18:10, IP: 130.180.250.202, from Serbia 13 positive reactions 3 negative
Hey everyone!
Not sure how to even start this post but lets try with... My beloved doberman - Ness passed away on 20th of September - we would celebrate his 14 birthday on 14 of January next year. It's been hard - still is i guess since i have tears in my eyes while i'm writing this. That's why i'll keep it short.
Talking with people over the years i've realized - i've been lucky one to have him for so long by my side. Friend of mine had hers for 5 and a half years - then he passed away due to heart failure.
Is it a good idea to even consider buying Doberman? Probably not - would be wiser for me to get another cat and keep this amazing breed only in my memories. But i'm stubborn and optimistic and i'd like to believe that out there are still some healthy dogs and breeders who cares about health and character of Dobermans.
Not just those who lost their moral compas long ago and sold out what they used to love (yes used to because you don't go out of your way to destroy something that you love).
Where can i find such people? Forums, websites... Anything?
Help me out - where should i even start my journey?
Thank you and greetings from Slovenia!

Hello!

Try here (it's close to Slovenia-in Istra)
www.mlerner.de
They have interesting litter...

2015-11-30 11:34, IP: 62.84.225.48, from Slovenia 13 positive reactions 11 negative
Hey everyone!
Not sure how to even start this post but lets try with... My beloved doberman - Ness passed away on 20th of September - we would celebrate his 14 birthday on 14 of January next year. It's been hard - still is i guess since i have tears in my eyes while i'm writing this. That's why i'll keep it short.
Talking with people over the years i've realized - i've been lucky one to have him for so long by my side. Friend of mine had hers for 5 and a half years - then he passed away due to heart failure.
Is it a good idea to even consider buying Doberman? Probably not - would be wiser for me to get another cat and keep this amazing breed only in my memories. But i'm stubborn and optimistic and i'd like to believe that out there are still some healthy dogs and breeders who cares about health and character of Dobermans.
Not just those who lost their moral compas long ago and sold out what they used to love (yes used to because you don't go out of your way to destroy something that you love).
Where can i find such people? Forums, websites... Anything?
Help me out - where should i even start my journey?
Thank you and greetings from Slovenia!

2015-11-27 11:03, IP: 85.17.24.66, from Netherlands 26 positive reactions 1 negative
Has anyone seen Sidor or his daughter Barbarossa in Russia last weeks?

2015-11-25 01:36, IP: 212.24.176.38, from Hungary 12 positive reactions 1 negative
2015-11-18 18:28, IP: 90.184.6.165, from Denmark 3 positive reactions 29 negative
I heard today that a man has mated his female this week to Sidor

who is that?

2015-11-22 22:00, IP: 46.252.74.106, from United Kingdom 4 positive reactions 3 negative
U/Kingdom you make plenty of accusations why don't you sign your entry and let us all know who we are dealing with.
T. Campbell

2015-11-20 22:18, IP: 83.115.221.18, from France 11 positive reactions 27 negative
Do not tar us all with the same brush!!!!
There are some breeders out there that do behave like this !
We dont lie about the cause of death of our dogs, we rigorously health test , we take our puppies/adults back if we have to , we keep our old dogs we dont move them on when they can no longer make us money!
We do study health & pedigrees not just use the most popular Champion !!
You are dealing with the wrong people if you believe all are bad

2015-11-20 20:41, IP: 185.109.109.35, from United Kingdom 6 positive reactions 5 negative
No. None fit. It's because they all lie and if they don't lie, they use the same shitty genetics like all the others, because there is no good genetical material left. It was distroyed by every breeder, judge and corrupt politician. Some already opened up their eyes, some will later and some never will because only money counts.

2015-11-19 19:33, IP: 5.196.72.100, from Germany 9 positive reactions 31 negative
I am a dog breeder. I spend a lifetime learning pedigrees, going over dogs, talking and learning from those in my breed and those outside it. I raise each litter as if I gave birth to them and spend an equal amount of time finding them loving forever homes. I only put puppies on this planet that I think will be the healthiest (mentally and physically) and nicest examples of their breed.

I support each family who chooses one of my puppies and let them know they are now a part of our extended family. I am there if one needs to come back and will aggressively pursue the return of one of my dogs if its in the wrong place. I support my breed in rescue and education. I hold them when they arrive and leave this world, not only my own, but my brethren in the fancy. I share my knowledge and socialize my dogs so that they will be the advertisement for my dedication.

I don’t keep track of the money and time I put in to my love of dogs, it would not be true measure of how I feel. I support my friends in the fancy, because it takes a village sometimes and only WE know how things are for us.

The price I charge for my puppies is never profit, but investment in the next generation. I will not be ashamed of who I am, I work hard at being a good dog person and encouraging others to be the same. I am a breeder and I am proud of it.

If we don’t support each other – we are doomed as a fancy.


Any Dobermann breeders fit this deion???

2015-11-18 18:28, IP: 90.184.6.165, from Denmark 3 positive reactions 33 negative
I heard today that a man has mated his female this week to Sidor

2015-11-16 16:49, IP: 94.189.187.144, from Serbia 19 positive reactions 0 negative
Yes...i hear cardio problem,Sidor

2015-11-16 15:48, IP: 109.149.162.137, from United Kingdom 10 positive reactions 0 negative
Dragnea,
I see you hide behind a fake ID. Are you not man enough to talk in public about these problems of health in the breed? I'm up for it so if you have any constructive ideas about how we can all get out of this mess, I am happy to talk with you.
What I won't put up with is you or anyone pointing fingers when people try to be honest, and for you getting my Facebook comments completely wrong.

I read a lot on your blog about how angry you are (at many things); I'm sure you are right about corruption and bad breeding practices, but don't pick on me for the wrong reasons.

Anyone who breeds Dobermanns will breed some dogs with DCM or cancer (just as humans have cardiac failure and cancer). It is unavoidable, and anyone who thinks they are immune are lying or stupid, but don't shoot the people like us who have done our best to avoid problems, and don't shoot the good people who do care.

Now maybe you can concentrate on the puppy farmers in your country who sell in bulk without caring who their puppies go to, shipping them off without a care. Maybe you can tell me what route they are taking into the UK - maybe do something useful today?

Jay Horgan
Aritaur - UK

2015-11-16 14:36, IP: 5.154.190.192, from Romania 10 positive reactions 0 negative
i hear the same.

2015-11-16 14:14, IP: 217.12.199.169, from Ukraine 12 positive reactions 0 negative
i hear the same.

2015-11-16 14:12, IP: 154.127.61.226, from Seychelles 1 positive reactions 9 negative
i dont believe it

2015-11-16 13:33, IP: 185.112.157.215, from United Kingdom 12 positive reactions 1 negative
Serbia : P.O.R.SIDOR IS DEAD????

is this truthe?

2015-11-16 12:51, IP: 109.149.162.137, from United Kingdom 8 positive reactions 1 negative
Interesting rant from anonymous in Romania who seems very familiar with UK dogs? (something to do with my DR message about puppy farmers and dealers I suspect).

I'm always happy to answer - and being the only UK breeder - in fact - are we the ONLY BREEDERS IN THE WORLD TO PUBLISH ALL our health results of every dog we've ever bred, anyone can see all our health results. I hide NOTHING. It is very liberating not having to hide behind anonymity and secrets, you should try it - but instead you want to have a bash? I do wonder what goes through tiny minds sometimes - what do you want, honesty or not?

So Bracco's mother was not Tamerlan as you wrote. Tamerlan is obviously male you fool !!!!! Bracco's mother was Dominatrix, daughter of Valdo. Dominatrix died at 12.5. Her mother died at 8 days before her 12th birthday. Her mother died at 13. Is that good enough for you? Did you not like the FACT that Bracco died at 11? Not good enough for you??? Jeez!

Let's look at this comment which you have taken OUT OF CONTEXT. You quote "Facebook Jay Horgan TBH I don't think there is any shame in dogs/bloodlines having DCM. (or Cancer?)" Shame on YOU

I am sorry you are such a stupid retard Romania. You obviously failed to see - that was saying there is no shame in people being HONEST!! Did you seriously think I was saying DCM (or cancer) doesn't matter. Good Lord, I really need to write things more clearly for the morons out there.

So where, Romania/UK, do you think these super clear lines are going to come from? Instead of bashing another kennel (I presume you are a kennel or maybe just a nobody wanting a pop), what are YOUR solutions?

Jay Horgan - Aritaur.

2015-11-16 08:30, IP: 5.254.97.95, from Romania 4 positive reactions 6 negative
Facebook Jay Horgan So herein lies a question. Is it luck that Bracco seems 'clear' of DCM when four of his litter mates have died sudden death early? And of more importance, does this mean he is a bonus to a gene pool apparently flooded with the problem, or should he have been avoided because of his siblings? Bracco's sire died at 8 of cancer, others in his sires' litter died of DCM. Only one of Bracco's progeny that I know of have died from unexplained sudden death.

Bracco mother is Tamerlan iz Slavnoi Stai. The Citone and Slavnoi Stai 'T' litter has major question marks around it. What must be going through your tiny minds???? Many of Tamerlan siblings dead before you mated her. Bracco as stud spread bad genes to UK lines.

Facebook Jay Horgan TBH I don't think there is any shame in dogs/bloodlines having DCM. (or Cancer?) Shame on YOU

Sick breeders need luck . Look at the pedigrees on http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/ evidence shows there dogs are genetic time bombs.

You say you are no worse than other breeders when you spread Tamerlan and Citone bad genes to stupid Great Britain buyers. Honesty at last. Oh yeah I know I dont care if they dont see there 5th birthday as long as I can sell them quickly that will do for me.

2015-11-16 08:17, IP: 2605:e000:ad57:ba00:c886:8651:4aca:8407, from Unknown 9 positive reactions 5 negative
I also had two daughter of Tamerlan, one died at 12, the other died at 10.5 (yrs).
QuillanQasim del Citone (son of Tigr) died over 10. Daughter of Trefovaja Dama died at 12 (by GinoGomez). And so on.
Don't you all think just saying Citone and T Slavnoi Stai dogs carried DCM is a mistake? THINK

2015-11-16 00:01, IP: 90.17.114.67, from France 5 positive reactions 4 negative
2015-11-15 15:25, IP: 93.115.89.126, from Romania 2 positive reactions 3 negative
Jay Hogan got it right
Dobermann buyers in Great Britain are stupid
They have been buying Dobermans with bad genes from stupid breeders for years
Sterilise all dogs from T litter Slavnoi Stai and del Citone before the Dobermann race is doomed

To Romania i agree Dobermann buyers in UK are stupid buying of dog dealers yes , put your last comment i strongly disagree with !! My boy from Tamerlan lived till over 12 years totally DCM free his children are in double figures also Jay Horgans Tamerlan son was 11 years i believe so i doubt she will agree with you , i have my own thoughts about Gino progeny and there are others a lot worse !!!! Instead of making these stupid statements test your dogs regularly and try to do something for our breed !!!

2015-11-15 18:27, IP: 94.189.187.144, from Serbia 8 positive reactions 3 negative
P.O.R.SIDOR IS DEAD???? FEMALE FOR U-LITTER (URBANO & BARSELONA)P.O.R. IS DEAD TO????? CARDIO PROBLEM?????

2015-11-15 17:17, IP: 90.204.21.197, from United Kingdom 4 positive reactions 1 negative
Romania,
To the homes these dog dealers sell to they dont always care about papers. They only want a dog which looks scary. Papers are good for breeding only and because no restrictions these dogs are bred with no care or guidance.

The UK has an influx of cropped Dobes in rescue because people like "englaterra" sell to people with no idea what they buy.

2015-11-15 09:34, IP: 37.221.174.7, from Romania 1 positive reactions 0 negative
The FCI must take a stronger stance on breed registration. Without registration papers the monetary value of pups would be slashed and unscrupulous breeders would have there income cut. The Dobermann is a sick breed bred by sicker breeders.

2015-11-15 15:25, IP: 93.115.89.126, from Romania 6 positive reactions 6 negative
Jay Hogan got it right
Dobermann buyers in Great Britain are stupid
They have been buying Dobermans with bad genes from stupid breeders for years
Sterilise all dogs from T litter Slavnoi Stai and del Citone before the Dobermann race is doomed

2015-11-15 09:34, IP: 37.221.174.7, from Romania 5 positive reactions 1 negative
The FCI must take a stronger stance on breed registration. Without registration papers the monetary value of pups would be slashed and unscrupulous breeders would have there income cut. The Dobermann is a sick breed bred by sicker breeders.

2015-11-14 10:19, IP: 31.49.72.94, from United Kingdom 1 positive reactions 3 negative
Cheers, thanks for the info.... I would agree with all of that, as it is plain to see from the naked eye, and the stats/record-wins speak for themselves.

I'm looking for a top-notch male Dob, the best I can get my hands on; a superior-specimen really. If anyone could throw some breeders name up here to point me in the right direction, that would be pretty awesome...

I need something big and beefy, the bigger the better, but with all the classic sweeping lines of a Dob, of course.

Going through the pic-board on here (ear-shapes aside), I can tell in a instant which are the good-looking dogs, and which aren't... They seem to fall into one or the other category, in my eyes that is...Doesn't seem to be much middle ground. (???)

2015-11-12 23:28, IP: 24.24.237.158, from United States 4 positive reactions 1 negative
Want to see also the "careful" owners who is going to decide to buy puppies from the factory kennels. They keep them alive. If there is demand for puppy, they will produce them. So congratulations for both side!

Want to see Dale Robinson for example if you went to visit the kennel, you knew the breeder (Jelena and Ivan) well before you decided to buy your "new family member"? Or others who are complaining always about that breeder never sent the puppy or never sent the pedigree? Were you all careful? Or just want to buy perhaps a cheap puppy or puppy with cropped ears because in your country you can't buy such a puppy? And you try to sneak out the rules?

2015-11-12 18:42, IP: 109.149.162.137, from United Kingdom 10 positive reactions 1 negative
This Englaterra Dobermanns is a dealer. Nothing less. He is a trader in puppies.
He has got together with an appalling kennel in Hungary - Hunoterra (note the Englaterra/Hunoterra), who don't give a shit where their puppies go and who breed from a warehouse!

THIS IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THE DOBERMANN. This is purely dealing in factory farmed puppies.

You should both be ashamed of yourselves. Dirty business dealing in dogs - like a car trader? How cheap and disgusting.

2015-11-09 00:08, IP: 81.101.115.206, from United Kingdom 5 positive reactions 1 negative
Hi Ivan & Jelena,

I can’t seem to get hold of you by Facebook or email and my friend has also tried for me.

Jay pointed out that we should have Domino’s registered pedigree to enable us to compete in Europe, but as you know we never had it. Could you please get that sent on to us?

Dale Robinson

2015-11-06 11:35, IP: 86.6.219.118, from United Kingdom 4 positive reactions 0 negative
Unknown : they show the ness paper work doesnt mean it is true!

2015-11-05 19:03, IP: 78.150.229.248, from United Kingdom 9 positive reactions 2 negative
Be carefull!
Englaterra Dobermans Manchester kennel

"I'm not breeding pups please get your facts right and read my profile I'm a importer not a breeder...."
Great!!!
How could it be called kennel? Poor dogs!
Such business must be stopped!

2015-11-05 15:55, IP: 86.158.18.77, from United Kingdom 20 positive reactions 0 negative
I just called the person advertising that brown female for sale in England from Hunoterra. He could hardly speak English - sounded Pakistani or Arabic. I asked him if she was still for sale and he said she was sold and being collected soon. (Hopefully her new home will care for her better than the existing owner). I asked him why she was so thin (it took 5 times for him to understand me). He said she eats fine. I asked him why he was selling her. 'we don wanna her no more' was the reply.
Hunoterra, you stink. You ship your dogs from their factory farm to stupid buyers in Great Britain who think they are getting a cropped/docked bargain. They don't realise you are cheap for a reason.
You don't give a shit about the dogs you breed - you are just factory farmers.
You never bother to even ask ONE question of where they are going.
You and the dealers over here you supply to, are a disgrace to the name of Dobermann.
You disgust me.
Jay Horgan

 

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