2011-12-16 19:26, IP: 195.93.60.42, from Europe

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what is the reason mr. rozenberg from iz zoosfery -kennel was banned?

2011-12-16 19:16, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States

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United Kingdom:
In the past the DV has banned their own judges
causing them to seek legal counsel.
This is old news.

2011-12-16 18:32, IP: 92.8.155.113, from United Kingdom

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Bogdanova Olga - breeder kennel “Modus Ost”, Fokht Natalia – breeder kennel “Teraline”, Eugeny Rozenberg – breeder kennel “iz Zoosfery”.

'If you cant beat them, Ban them'

Is that the policy now?

2011-12-16 12:15, IP: 213.23.84.205, from Germany

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i dont think it is funny. it is a sad way how concurence is kicked out - typical way how the DV does it. whoever is unpleasent is kicked out.

2011-12-16 11:50, IP: 82.27.5.195, from United Kingdom

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I heard Natalia Foht is banned because she kicked her trophy on IDC 2010

That's quite funny

2011-12-16 03:50, IP: 178.48.15.53, from Hungary

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I heard Natalia Foht is banned because she kicked her trophy on IDC 2010, when Teraline Midgard didn't win his class. Nobody saw this except Becht and this was main reason to ban her. But on IDC 2009 Aldo D'Ana made circles with highly raised hand showing middle finger to everybody because the crowd disagreed with judge's decision to give IDC Jugensigerin title to his female, Alamos' daughter. We all saw this very well. And not only he is not banned, but even this year his dog became IDC Sieger. And this dog is very ..., if this was the best brown male on IDC than dobermann lost too much on his beauty, but fortunaltly for the breed this was one of the worst brown males on IDC.

2011-12-15 22:04, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States

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in the same idea : you like (vote positiv) or dislike ( vote negativ) the mating in which on father's side is Tigr and on mothers side Atreyo, Tigr, Gino, Alfa. This breeder doesn't or didn't want to know the risks ?

2011-12-15 21:34, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States

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Regarding to an older post of mine :
"2011-12-11 21:48 • IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States 10 positive reactions         24 negative

Russia, you are somehow right. But do not forget something : you have a dobermann which you love ( Simon loved Fedor), he dies suddenly. Do not expect from anybody who's beloved dog dies to go to make an autopsy just because others are expecting this from him to KNOW. It is cruelty to expect from anybody to do something like this because other wants to know. What do you want to know ?! That he died because DCM ?As you have written about his pedigree he was predisposed to have this illness. Question is : why breeders went to mate with him if they knew that, and even more why they didn't know their own bitches pedigree ?! Why so many from Russia ( but notbonly from your country) made inbreedings on Tigr, Akuna or other dobermanns which have been knowed to be dead because DCM ? Do not blame Simon , he didn't forced anybody to go to mate with Fedor, and nobody assured that puppies will won in IDC like in other male's case"

I have some questions to whose who are not agreeing with this post :
- you are not agreeing with : an owner or breeder must not make an outopsy to his beloved dog which died suddenly (not car accident,not snake bite , not drowned) or anything else just like these ,because other people wants to be SURE, even in the pedigree on mother's side are dogs died by DCM ? You expect to make an autopsy to a died beloved doberman even if he died at home just to make somebody sure what is obvious : a dog in whose pedigree are dogs at close mother side or father side dead because of DCM may carry the DCM gene which can be transmited and in combination with other dog which carries the same DCM gene result will be:DCM carry or DCM ill at leat at a couple of puppies ?
- you not agree that you must know your bitch's pedigree to avoid dangerous gene combinations?
- you not agree wiht fact that we can see in Russia or also in other countries combinations 2-2, 2-3 etc inbreedings on dogs which died by DCM,cancer, or are very suspected to be dead because of one of these, puppies of them beeing also known as dead suddenly ? And these inbreedings are a mistake ?
- you do not agree that some breeders are making these inbreedings just because they want to won no matter what was sacrificed, to be likable by somebody very important in deciding IDC winner , or just want to have "famous and with a lot of titles" dogs in pedigree of the puppies and even they knew the risks they made those inbreedings ? And I am not saying about beginner breeders.

2011-12-15 20:38, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States

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2008 IDC Sweden. Boris iz Doma Domeni didn't won . Reason : eyes too deep (Pezzano) , out of standard. Was a big dispute regarding this between Pezzano and some breeders from old Russia. Teraline Ingrid won
2009 IDC Hungary : Boris won ( in 2008 eyes were too deep and til 2009 they become OK :)),Kaspiy won,Dasha won.
Is this something in conection with what you are saying ? ( verify judges 2008,2009) Or is just something what appeared in my mind looking to your post.

2011-12-15 20:19, IP: 93.137.126.199, from Croatia

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Hm, I was always wondernig how's possible that Rosenberg sold great females as Mo, Sharon and Euro Dinamica???

2011-12-15 19:52, IP: 188.191.161.241, from Russia

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I will not tell about Alois – I dont know. But in Russia everybody very well know who is behind this all. Have been attack such successful and well-known Russian specialists and breeders, as Bogdanova Olga - breeder kennel “Modus Ost”, Fokht Natalia – breeder kennel “Teraline”, Eugeny Rozenberg – breeder kennel “iz Zoosfery”. The Russian Kennel Club has some letters against these people, signed Becht - puppets in the hands of the breeder's kennel Pride of Russia. Yes, very effective way to neutralize competitors.
We, Russian, have strange quality – very long patience. But when really comes the end of the tolerance - we win any great war.

2011-12-15 16:09, IP: 89.149.223.80, from Germany

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ADVICE TO ALL PUPPY BUYERS!!!!!!!

If you buy a puppy from combination Mitto del Nasi and Tigris Lewan von Jahrestal you must know that this puppies don't have a pedigree!!!

Tigris Lewan von Jahrestal was stolen in Germany by the Jahrestal kennel owner Alojz Purgaj and he is refusing to return her to the real owner instead the German Court statement established he must and he was in prison in March 2011 for this reason.

The puppies are about 1-2 months old now, Alojz tried to get pedigrees from Serbian Kennel Club but he was banned from Serbia. After his Slovenian girlfriend Mateja Steinberger tried to get pedigrees in Slovenia but Slovenian Kennel Club refused too to issue pedigrees for this litter. I'm sure he will try in other countries or under another Kennels, so be careful!!!

You can verify this information by yourself at Serbian Kennel Club and Slovenian Kennel Club.

Everybody knows that Alojz Purgaj and his kennel Jahrestal were banned from Serbian Kennel Club, DV and IDC because numerous violations that he committed.

2011-12-15 14:14, IP: 77.119.225.245, from Serbia

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Ok if this is a reason why they are banned, then that is a good reason and good decision.But then why DV and IDC didn't say to public reason why breeders are banned.We only can see they final decision and no any explanation why this happened. On that way they can ban all breeders and people who doesn't like and who are not agree with they politic.

2011-12-15 00:34, IP: 109.10.1.152, from France

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I think they are both banned because they stole dogs ftom they respective owners. Alojz stole Tequila von Jahrestal, before she was call Tequila Lewan von Jahrestal and her real owner is Markus Lewan and Natalia stole Teraline Midrgard from his real owner.

2011-12-15 00:33, IP: 92.49.234.230, from Ukraine

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http://www.von-bavaria.de/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=6:l-wurf&Itemid=30

I feel sadness when i see pictures like this. What about IDC president?

2011-12-14 23:26, IP: 217.121.13.251, from Netherlands

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Ok, let's forget about Alojs Purgaj, there was always a bit of controversy around him.
I want to know why Nathalia Fokht as a respected judge and breeder is banned from all DV and IDC events.

2011-12-14 21:30, IP: 74.101.35.25, from United States

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Why are Natalia and Alojs banned from IDC and DV events?

2011-12-14 20:35, IP: 95.154.230.191, from United Kingdom

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How can such a thing be possible?

http://www.dogsunit.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3319:puppies-in-von-jahrestal-kennel&catid=385&Itemid=466

Jahrestal is banned for lifetime and the mother from this litter is stolen

2011-12-14 20:35, IP: 89.204.154.146, from Germany

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2011-12-14 19:13 • IP: 91.55.163.2 • from Germany

PLEASE STOP YOUR STUPID POSTINGS !!!

noone cares if alojs is allowed to go to the idc show or not, specially i guess he doesn't care too much either if he is allowed to go there or not.

so please stop boring the entire world with your sensless postings !!!

it is boring and annoying !

2011-12-14 19:13, IP: 91.55.163.2, from Germany

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DV & IDC BESUCHERVERBOT:

http://www.hostmyjpg.com/images/0462143fde_alojz_purgaj.jpg

2011-12-14 16:48, IP: 79.31.20.79, from Italy

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2011-12-14 16:12 • IP: 188.28.236.171 • from United Kingdom

I agree with you!

If you ask in expò at all the owner of a dalmatian or a weimaraner or a boxer or a greyhoud which is the dog that they own before in the 90 percent they reply you I was the owner of a dobermann and he or her died soo young at 4 or 5 years and I bought my second dobermann but after 6 or 7 years he died so my heart wad broken and I don't want another dobermann...........so I take a dalmatina or weimaraner

ALL THOSE PEOPLE LOVES THEIR DOGS BUT AFTER 2 DOGS THAT DIED SUDDENDLY IN FEW YEARS THEY WANT KEEP ANOTHER BREED...........ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE KNOWS THAT DCM IS HORRIBLE

2011-12-14 16:12, IP: 188.28.236.171, from United Kingdom

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this more inbreeding on citone ,,, via ebo etc really needs to end or the breed is really finished ..its way too much inbred on sick dogs

2011-12-14 15:55, IP: 188.28.236.171, from United Kingdom

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Bombastic..has dcm both sides mia ..was conformed dcm ...and i believe her daughter was aswell chendra ...if i remember rightly when i spoke to the owner of mia and chendra
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2011-12-14 15:32, IP: 62.44.134.188, from Denmark

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"They said Bombastic died of some gastro-something issues, surgery complications. And yet numerous of his offsprings died suddenly. My dog did too. And I didn't need to do an autopsy to know what it was. He went outside and was dead in 2 minutes. And I also know that it is not from his mother as she was old Russian breeding and had a long life.
So there, hide the facts of your popular stud dog's death, it will all come to life eventually, through the next generation. But at that point it will be late too correct anything."


Yes..blame it only on the male...thats the way to go..!
If you did not perform autopsy, you do not know what killed you dog. Thats a fact. And who knows, maybe it was the combintaion of your dogs parents..? Ever thought about that? Some combinations from two super parents ofthen become shit. Fact of life. Thats why breeding is not 1 1...

2011-12-14 14:25, IP: 188.28.236.171, from United Kingdom

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sorry
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/modules/pedigree/dog.php?id=38342

2011-12-14 14:23, IP: 188.28.236.171, from United Kingdom

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croatia
matador was confirmed
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/modules/pedigree/dog.php?id=27862

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2011-12-14 13:23, IP: 82.26.198.90, from United Kingdom

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I do feel sorry for the person from Russia who is adamant the death of Tigr was not DCM related. The writer person is probably the owner.
What concerns me most is the denial. How many breeders and owners of stud dogs are there in denial and is owner denial one of the factors we should be looking at in helping the breed to become healthy.

2011-12-14 12:43, IP: 193.9.13.103, from Sweden

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Leave the race. It's impossible to save. No anymore.

2011-12-14 10:14, IP: 79.31.20.79, from Italy

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Ale Alamos del chitone x Grace of Glory del Fiorsilva

this is how to destroy a breed how many time you had ebo inside????

no word

2011-12-14 08:29, IP: 71.63.8.90, from United States

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"... Akunas's father Tigr iz Slavnoi Stai died from DCM with 4 years. Tigr's parents - Ugor di Villa Conte died from DCM at 4.5 years ..."

It is NOT a TRUE!!!
NOBODY still don't know why died Ugor, Tigr, Adamant and ect. NOBODY do not postmortal opening. So your words only is your fantasy!


It doesn't matter really if it is true or not, the lifespan of these dogs' offsprings is all you need to know. If sons and daughters die young and suddenly, that's enough evidence to prove what is actually behind the parents' deaths.
They said Bombastic died of some gastro-something issues, surgery complications. And yet numerous of his offsprings died suddenly. My dog did too. And I didn't need to do an autopsy to know what it was. He went outside and was dead in 2 minutes. And I also know that it is not from his mother as she was old Russian breeding and had a long life.
So there, hide the facts of your popular stud dog's death, it will all come to life eventually, through the next generation. But at that point it will be late too correct anything.