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2013-10-07 19:32, IP: 213.233.85.33, from Romania 12 positive reactions 0 negative
Serbian -ip128.53

I like your message bery much , you have right .
Only one thing is incorrect : I"m not Csaba .
And I changed my mind .
I will do not go . I am here , near you !

2013-10-07 18:59, IP: 178.221.223.73, from Serbia 35 positive reactions 0 negative
It is time to Serbia get out from IDC,and many other countries to follow us. Than next year to be Club sieger show in Serbia on day of IDC with more than 350 dogs,and maybe best in oposite sex to get tittle WDB Club sieger 2013,and they can make IDC with 70 uncropped dogs...

u potpisu Desperado...

2013-10-07 16:53, IP: 62.193.128.53, from Serbia 55 positive reactions 2 negative
Csaba we really hope others will also fight for our breed. IDC and DV made fools of all of us for many years, and systematically destroyed our beloved breed and now drop that overflowed the glass is changing standard. It is time to said, Be brave, enough is enough. WDB it seams to be real light spot and we really hope we all together have power to win and make new organization much better of IDC and start to work on improving the breed.
In Serbia we are not fight between us, actually we are all together like never before, we all have one goal, not to left this gravediggers to kill our breed. Balkan Seiger only show us who are the traitors. For Lipar Land and del Naisus we already knew, they are bad people, nobody likes them and not trust them, they are cheaters and people who will sold they own mothers if they only think they will have some benefits from this. Nobleshof are surprise, but they also decided to throw thyself in toilet together with shits even if we think they are better of this.

2013-10-07 15:38, IP: 80.207.172.194, from Italy 41 positive reactions 0 negative
Becht is a disgrace to the race, those who call themselves breed specialist should accept the judgment of the exhibitors, for them he is just an arrogant, ignorant and presumptuous kept sheep.

2013-10-07 14:51, IP: 175.137.34.155, from Malaysia 35 positive reactions 3 negative
The whole world knows Serbia is future of Dobrmann breed. Germany is nothing.

2013-10-07 14:45, IP: 178.222.33.4, from Serbia 32 positive reactions 0 negative
Treba zauzeti stav odmah, i traziti objasnjenje od Internacionalnog Doberman Cluba za ovakvo ponasanje jednog njihovog sudije i neophodno izvinjenje Bechta srpskim odgajivacima i SDSu. Naravno, sve to uz promenjeno rukovodstvo SDSa! Jankovicu, sledi primer Golubovica a za tobom i svi ostali.
Vidim prisutan bio i Vesic sa svojim evropskim pobednikom, a i Vukanac sa svojom finalistkinjom, verovatno da izraze zahvalnost DVu i samom Bechtu, kako? - necemo pitati.

2013-10-07 14:01, IP: 213.233.85.33, from Romania 22 positive reactions 0 negative
Thank you for positive reactions , that mean that something possible to change !
Pitty to be one against orher !
Brothers !

2013-10-07 13:43, IP: 178.222.33.4, from Serbia 38 positive reactions 1 negative
Ko je bre ovde lud? Becht saziva skupstinu IDCa??? Ko je on da to radi i odakle mu tolika smelost, da u toj meri bude drzak. Sram ga bilo!!! Doduse, ni ovi nasi 'priznati i poznati' odgajivaci nisu ostali nevini i duzni doticnom Bechtu, potrudili su se da mu ucine prijatnijim i upotpune boravak u Kragujevcu i Srbiji, a on valjda njima za uzvrat upotpunio druge stvari i kolekciju osvojenih 'trofeja'. Sram vas bilo!!! Nije vas sramota na celu sa sve ovim Jankovicem - potpisujete izvinjenja. Zasto, u cije ime i kome??? Da li ste vi Jankovicu pri zdravoj pameti i cistoj svesti? Umesto da taj isti Becht pise izjavu IDCu zbog prituzbe SDSa, jer kakav je to sudija koji sudi na IDCu, a nije sposoban da u jednoj od vodecih (ako ne i prvoj) zemalja u svetu dobermana skupi ni bednih 30 pasa jos bednijeg kvaliteta na specijalki. Da li je moguce da ste toliko nisko pali vi Lipar Land, Nobleshoff i Del Naisus, vodjeni ogolubovicoljenim Jankovicem??? Pa cak i da ste uvereni, da taj Becht, zna nesto o rasi, i da je vredno cuti njegovo misljenje - TREBALO JE da se solidarisete sa stavom doberman zajednice u Srbiji, i kazete NE izlozbi, Bechtu i njegovim poltronima. Opravdanje za vas i vas postupak jednostavno ne postoji. I to ne treba nikada zaboraviti.
Takodje mislim da su neophodne kompletne promene u SDSu, jer bi trebalo da nas vodi neko ko se zalaze za dobrobit rase pre svega u Srbiji, neko ko ce stati ispred stava zajednice i ko ce se zalagati za Srbiju, jer mi jesmo svetska sila broj 1 u svetu dobermana i krajnje je vreme da Internacionalni Doberman Club pocne tako i da nas tretira.
A jadni neznalac Becht i ovi njegovi poltroncici na celu sa Jankovicem neka se i dalje igraju igara bez granica!

2013-10-07 13:21, IP: 213.233.85.33, from Romania 26 positive reactions 1 negative
Serbians , your voices said that you entered in battle for dobermann
breed .
I have a message for you and unfortunately is not a friendly one. Because , even i knowed in past a great Jugoslavian breeder ,
your breeding was not always a friendly one with us nor for dobermann breed.
First of all you make a important part of this system , your dogs construct
important part of actual race genepool and you know...the genepool is small
and reduced , nothing else remained and because your incorrect show domination . Today as you know our dobermanns have grave ilnesses :
cancer, wobbler, displasia, torsions , dcm, giand molosus characters .
Your breeding and breeders contributed with good and bad thing to all of
that .
This site is one of the bigest and promoted by long years this again and
again genetic , was important advertising part of this system which now you
don't like .
Before to change your created system , I think that is more good to change
your minds and actions .
It is good that you started the battle , but first of all the battle must be done inside of all of us .
Only if we will succed to do that mean that we really winned and we really changed something for dobermann race . Otherwise you will succed only to change a system with another similar . Nothing more .

2013-10-07 13:16, IP: 94.189.175.220, from Serbia 13 positive reactions 0 negative
Ti govnaru sto se krijes iza USA pusi nam kurac svima(znam da razumes ***o iz Srbije)

2013-10-07 12:57, IP: 109.206.115.6, from Serbia 27 positive reactions 1 negative
Evo, neko od jajara i dupelizaca koji čak nemaju muda ni da se oglase na svom jeziku a misli da smo svi mi sisali tatu a ne mamu se pomučio i naučio da koristi proxy kako bi se makar nešto iskenjao ovde.
Imate li obraza gospodo, šta ste videli jutros kad ste se pogledali u ogledalo, čoveka ili govno???


2013-10-07 12:06, IP: 173.254.216.68, from USA5 positive reactions 17 negative

You Serbs are very funny. Dejan will eventually obey to DV and IDC and you will all feel very stupid for all this after that. He is their standard slut and you all are along with him. It's just that you don't know it yet.

2013-10-07 12:25, IP: 89.216.123.118, from Serbia 20 positive reactions 1 negative
013-10-07 12:06, IP: 173.254.216.68, from USA5 positive reactions 9 negative

You Serbs are very funny. Dejan will eventually obey to DV and IDC and you will all feel very stupid for all this after that. He is their standard slut and you all are along with him. It's just that you don't know it yet.


5 pozitivnih - taman toliko njoh je i prodalo sve nas koji ne mislimo kao i oni

2013-10-07 12:18, IP: 62.193.128.53, from Serbia 30 positive reactions 1 negative
And you think Dejan is main reason for ours protest? You think we are just bodies without brain? Than you are very funny.

2013-10-07 12:06, IP: 173.254.216.68, from USA 12 positive reactions 40 negative
You Serbs are very funny. Dejan will eventually obey to DV and IDC and you will all feel very stupid for all this after that. He is their standard slut and you all are along with him. It's just that you don't know it yet.

2013-10-07 12:05, IP: 178.222.161.118, from Serbia 40 positive reactions 0 negative
" NOVA INFORMACIJA-Beht hoce opet da hitno sazove sastanak DV-a i IDC-a da Srbiju izbace iz IDC-a i da nam se zabrani polaganje ZTP-a i nemacko ocitavanje kukova......."

ovo samo dokazuje da smo mi koji nismo dosli i koji smo protiv Bechta apsulutno u pravu
** Naime zar mi moramo da volimo sudiju i da mu se uvlacimo u guzicu da bi bili clanovi IDC -a ?
ako je tako molim da se javno postavi clan ugovra il vec pravilnika u kome to pise
** Zar je IDC privatni Bechtov klub pa on moze da izbacuje i u ubacuje clanove po svojoj volji ?
ako je tako molim da se postavi dokument gde pise da je vlasnik Thomas Becht i podhitno promeni ime kluba umesto INTERNATIONAL DOBERMANN CLUB u "BECHT'S DOBERMANN CLUB" kako se mi i ostali sirom sveta nebi dovodili i dalje u zabludu da je IDC Internacionalni a ne privatni klub
**Zar mi imamo obavezu da izlazemo svoje pse kod navedenog sudije ?
ako je tako molim da se i taj deo pravilnika postavi javno kako bi mi ocigledno neupuceni ovim putem primili to k znanju
**Zar smo mi obavezni da ocenjujemo svoje pse kod doticnog sudije ako smo vec ranije imali prilike da cujemo njegovo misljenje sa kojim se ne slazemo ?
ako je tako molim da se postavi deo pravilnika u kome pise da se mora izlagati kod Bechta vise puta
**Zar mi kao clanovi i izlagaci ,moram reci veoma uspesni , moramo prihvattiti svako misljenje koje nam se servira iz Nemacke a putem doticnog sudije a da predhodno ne izrazimo svoje ?
ako je tako molim da se postavi javno i taj deo pravilnika
**Zar IDC nije skup svih internacionlnih Doberman klubova i zar upravo zbog nas on i postoji, uprotivnom bi bio dovoljan samo jedan klub?
pa ako je tako onda bi bilo najbolje da se postavi dokument gde se moze videti koliko klubova i clanova broji IDC i onda bi trebalo da se izbace svi klubovi ,koji se protive vasem misljenju ,da ostane samo jedan Nemacki
ali, dali bi onda mogao da nosi ime INTERNACIONALNI ???

**I na kraju dali je vas neko tukao , dali vas je maltretirao na izlozbi pa cete vi da trazite da budemo izbaceni iz IDC-a il vam je samo povredjena sujeta zbog slabog odziva i neinteresovanja za vase misljenje ,i to je dovoljno za vas zahtev ?
ako je tako verovatno ,posto vi radite popravilniku i korektno , bi trebalo da postoji i takav dokument gde ce biti striktno navedeno da ako se naljuti usdija i ako mu se povredi sujeta moze da se trazi izbacivanje iz kluba ,pa molim da i taj deo pravilnika postavite javno!

Zato gospodo Nemci i G.Becht prilozite bar dokaze za ovo napred navedeno , ako imate takve dokaze mi ,eto bar ja licno ako ne svi , cu vam se javno izvinuti i prihvatiti izbacivanje iz IDC kluba ....
A dotle molim vas da razmislite o vasem ponsaanju prema odgajivcima iz Srbije koji vam godinama pune dzepove svojim prijavama za IDC a koje nisu nikako u malom broju niti jeftine !!

2013-10-07 12:04, IP: 91.218.172.65, from Serbia 32 positive reactions 0 negative
Tvrdim da do kraja ove nedelje cemo biti izbaceni i iz DV-a i IDC-a.... nemam nikakve informacije o tome, ali sam siguran da nasi tradiocionalni srbomrzci jedva cekaju da tako nesto ucine... em ce vratiti kako je jednom prilikom Herr Becht vratiti "svoju dobermann rasu" nemcima, em ce se resiti ljudi koji sebi dozvoljavaju da misle svojom glavom i koji mogu da ohrabre i ostale da se pobune.... jedino steta sto ce i oni nesrecnici i ulizice patiti (jedini). Sad, budimo pametni i preduhitrimo ih, sazovimo sastanak, osnujmo novi dobermann klub bez poltrona i samo se iskljucimo iz tih organizacija a za to se ima jako malo vremena, zato nemojmo biti lenji vec danas se organizujmo i do srede zakazimo sastanak i iskljucimo se iz tih organizacija i sto pre organizujmo World Dobermann Breeders (Club), koji ce istovremeno organizovati izlozbu kad i IDC i ponizimo ih daleko vecem broju prijavljenih i boljih pasa nego na njihovom IDC

2013-10-07 11:50, IP: 89.216.123.118, from Serbia 28 positive reactions 1 negative
Pa javljaju se, vidis da lupaju negativne ocene

2013-10-07 11:33, IP: 109.206.115.6, from Serbia 25 positive reactions 1 negative
A zašto jajare koje su juče izlagale ćute i nema ni jedne da se oglasi i napiše neku lepu reč o jučerašnjoj manifestaciji i divnom sudiji??? Možda ne prate šta se ovde piše??

2013-10-07 11:12, IP: 62.193.128.53, from Serbia 35 positive reactions 1 negative
Srbija u svakom trenutku na fer sudiju moze da ima 100 pasa na izlozbi.
U maju je na Attilio Polifrone-a doslo 150 pasa , a na Behta 27 ispodprosecnih pasa, ispodprosecnih vlasnika, koji za sigurno ne predstavljaju Srbiju i kojih se stidimo .

2013-10-07 10:59, IP: 77.105.0.2, from Serbia 33 positive reactions 1 negative
Mi smo dokazali da smo vecina i sta mislimo i o Behtu i o tom izvinjenju.Za Balkan Sieger je sramno da bude sacica pasa na izlozbi, velika vecina nas nije dosla !!!!! Jankovicu nemas ti prava da potpisujes nista bez saglasnosti vecine i u nase ime.

2013-10-07 10:45, IP: 94.189.175.220, from Serbia 33 positive reactions 1 negative
OPET NOVA INFORMACIJA-gospodin Jankovic Slobodan(podpredsednik doberman saveza srbije) je neovlasceno potpisao sramni dokument koji je to govno Tomas Beht doneo kao ultimatum i naredjenje srpskim slihtarama...gospodine Jankovicu u cije ime ste potpisali...nemate pravo da potpisujete nista bez skupstine kluba i saglasnosti clanova kluba...a ti govno jedno(Beht)...to sto ti se Jankovic uvukao u dupe(i tvoji dupeuvlakaci sa izlozbe) ne znaci da se srpska doberman javnost slaze sa tim...tako da mozes da nabijes taj potpis sa tim dokumentom i tvojim poltronima sa izlozbe u to tvoje odvratno nemacko dupe..

2013-10-07 10:39, IP: 89.216.123.118, from Serbia 32 positive reactions 1 negative
Jel ovo B udara minuse ili neki od ovih "patriotski nastrojenih izlagaca " :-p

2013-10-07 10:31, IP: 94.189.175.220, from Serbia 30 positive reactions 2 negative
NOVA INFORMACIJA-Beht hoce opet da hitno sazove sastanak DV-a i IDC-a da Srbiju izbace iz IDC-a i da nam se zabrani polaganje ZTP-a i nemacko ocitavanje kukova.....pa necete stici....sami cemo da izadjemo iz te sekte(IDC-a) a sto se tice ZTP-a i vaseg ocitavanja kukova...pa sta mislita da ne znamo da i vasi psi imaju probleme sa kukovima a vi im ocitavate A-kukove...svaki nemacki pas koji se izlaze ima vrhunske kukove....koga vi lazete...a taj vas ispit ZTP-***ski ispit koji je unazadio rasu doberman...stavite ga u to vase nemacko dupe...i ne folirajte vise narod da je to bitna stvar i bitan ispit...samo pravita ***e od pasa...alo bre pa gde to ima da doberman na vezu bude miran kad mu pridje nepoznata osoba(mora da napadne)...tako da jebite se i vi(nemci) i vas IDC...i vas ZTP...i vase lazno ocitavanje kukova....sve to mozemo mnogo bolje da radimo u nasoj zemlji.....kad budete(nemci) imali pse da lice na nesto a ne dzukele kojima vi sami dajete pobede mozda...ali samo mozda cemo vas pustiti da se takmicite sa nasim(srpskim)vrhunskim dobermanima...do tada...jebite se savasim klempavim i repatim antidobermanima...tacnije pticarima....

2013-10-07 08:55, IP: 79.175.124.190 , from 34 positive reactions 2 negative
It's not hard to hate Beht , but main reason for fight is changing standard and deprivation of freedom of choice

2013-10-07 04:27, IP: 89.210.75.45, from Greece 16 positive reactions 0 negative
Please can someone make it clear, what is the main reason of fighting between the Serbian
friends and Becht?

2013-10-07 01:52, IP: 109.92.64.148, from Serbia 29 positive reactions 2 negative
I read , and I read again ,with I can not believe ... what the hell are you people ?
What are attacked poor breeders Lipar Land , Del Naisus , Nobleshoff ..
Really wrong , peoples prepare go to shows, they know that not be enough who will come and they say let's take something tin some cup ,some prize, on a fair manner with honest judges , is enough with payments to win on ordinary exhibition, this is a specialty CLUB WINNER title ....

What do you care if they lick ass Becht ( just man is not need to wipe it after a crap )
what do you care if they smoke to him , that's just poor souls and let them suffocate and ( but they smooooke soooo good that may choke of smoking )
So whay you 're attacked them without reason , instead that you say thanks to them because they present their lovely dogs and dragged it up the ass Becht (albeit,today is Sunday today and not work towing service to get them out from his ass ,and some of them still is stay in Bechtovoj ass ) you are opened fire on to them
You should be ashamed that you are jealous that you are not like they are Feeders , bitches , creeps
You should be ashamed of what you are united and have boycotted the judge Mr. Becht who appreciates us Serbs as exhibitors and always treat us in the best way that he proved to IDC that's a man and wants to change the standard that we all feel better. ...
Please rethink about your filthy words directed to a poor breeders Lipar Land , Del Naisus , Nobleshoff .
And right now they are sorry because you called them feeders , suckers, sleazy ,hypocrites ....
uh , I've been confused , these were the compliments .. no need to apologize to them , but keep it up .

"little help for m.Becht how he will not spent his time on translate
reading this text is recomended before you go in toalet just because we want to save some of breeders Lipar Land, Del Naisus ,Nobleshoff who are stuck in your ass,how they do not go down the toilet "

Citam ,citam pa sve ne mogu da verujem ...kakvi ste bre vi to ljudi ?
Sta ste napali jadne odgajivace Lipar Land, Del Naisus ,Nobleshoff ..
Stvarno nije u redu ,spremili se ljudi da idu na izlozbu , znaju nece nas biti dosta ,ko vele daj da se uzme nesto plehano ,limeno na posten nacin kod postenog sudije ,dosta je bilo placanja na obicnim izlozbama ,ovo je bre specijalka CLUB WINNER titula ....

Sta vas briga sto oni lizu dupe Bechtu(taman covek nije moro da ga brise posle sranja )
sta vas briga ako ce i da mu puse, to su samo jadne duse, pa nek se i uguse (al vuuku dobro mozda se i zadave )
I sta ste ih napali bezveze umesto da im zahvalite sto su otisli prezentovali svoje divne pse i uvukli se u dupe Bechtu (doduse nedelja danas bila nije radila slep sluzba da ih izvuce pa su neki ostali u Bechtovoj guzici jos uvek ) vi ste osuli paljbu po njima
Treba da vas bude sramota sto ste ljubomorni ,sto vi niste ko i oni uvlakaci ,pizde , ljigavci
Treba da vas bude sramota sto ste slozni i sto ste bojkotovali sudiju gospodina BECHTA koji nas Srbe izuzetno ceni kao izlagace i uvek nas tretira na najbolji nacin sto je dokazao i na IDC-u eto covek hoce i da promeni standard da nam svima bude bolje ....
Molim vas jos jednom razmislite o vasim poganim recima a upucenim jadnim odgajivacima Lipar Land, Del Naisus ,Nobleshoff .
I smesta im se izvinite sto ste ih nazvali uvalakacima , dupeliscima , gnjidama ,licemerima ....
uf , nesto sam pobrkao , ovo su bili komplimenti .. ne ne treba da im se izvinjavate ,onda , vec samo nastavite tako .

2013-10-07 01:19, IP: 109.92.117.235, from Serbia 29 positive reactions 1 negative
" 'ошао бехт у Србију 'а нам вуче уши , а наши помагали" !!!! Tomas Becht you need to give apologize to us. You owe us an apology since IDC 2011.
Doberman is ours breed not only German's and we will not allow you to destroy our beloved breed.!!!!


Цветаноски Дени

2013-10-07 01:18, IP: 109.92.64.148, from Serbia 24 positive reactions 2 negative
Citam ,citam pa sve ne mogu da verujem ...kakvi ste bre vi to ljudi ?
Sta ste napali jadne odgajivace Lipar Land, Del Naisus ,Nobleshoff ..
Stvarno nije u redu ,spremili se ljudi da idu na izlozbu , znaju nece nas biti dosta ,ko vele daj da se uzme nesto plehano ,limeno na posten nacin kod postenog sudije ,dosta je bilo placanja na obicnim izlozbama ,ovo je bre specijalka CLUB WINNER titula ....

Sta vas briga sto oni lizu dupe Bechtu(taman covek nije moro da ga brise posle sranja )
sta vas briga ako ce i da mu puse, to su samo jadne duse, pa nek se i uguse (al vuuku dobro mozda se i zadave )
I sta ste ih napali bezveze umesto da im zahvalite sto su otisli prezentovali svoje divne pse i uvukli se u dupe Bechtu (doduse nedelja danas bila nije radila slep sluzba da ih izvuce pa su neki ostali u Bechtovoj guzici jos uvek ) vi ste osuli paljbu po njima
Treba da vas bude sramota sto ste ljubomorni ,sto vi niste ko i oni uvlakaci ,pizde , ljigavci
Treba da vas bude sramota sto ste slozni i sto ste bojkotovali sudiju gospodina BECHTA koji nas Srbe izuzetno ceni kao izlagace i uvek nas tretira na najbolji nacin sto je dokazao i na IDC-u eto covek hoce i da promeni standard da nam svima bude bolje ....
Molim vas jos jednom razmislite o vasim poganim recima a upucenim jadnim odgajivacima Lipar Land, Del Naisus ,Nobleshoff .
I smesta im se izvinite sto ste ih nazvali uvalakacima , dupeliscima , gnjidama ,licemerima ....
uf , nesto sam pobrkao , ovo su bili komplimenti .. ne ne treba da im se izvinjavate ,onda , vec samo nastavite tako .

2013-10-07 00:20, IP: 79.175.124.190, from Serbia 28 positive reactions 1 negative
Dupelizac i uvlakac
mufjuz, pizda, ulizica
iza tebe otegla se
nadimaka kobasica
...... ti nikad neces biti prva violina.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2b-disnxI

2013-10-06 23:12, IP: 94.189.175.220, from Serbia 38 positive reactions 1 negative
realno stanje na izlozbi u kragujevcu.......dva do tri psa koja realno zasluzuju odlicnu ocenu...nekoliko cetvorki...trojki...i nekoliko sa diskvalifikacionim manama...naravno...gospodin sudija Beht je svima dao odlicne ocene...mladi crni muzjak je visok oko 64-65.....ma odlican ali mnoge zenke te visine su male...crni klubski pobednik...svetlo oko u standardu pise....diskvalifikaciona mana...itd...itd....morao je da pocasti svoje poltrone.....zalosna izlozba......pa cac Zagubica ima bolji kvalitet pasa...........

 

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