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2014-11-25 17:38, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 4 positive reactions 1 negative
If you live in a country that will not register an Albino Dobermann then you don't need to worry about
limited registration.
If you live in a country that will not register Blues and Fawns don't worry about limited registration.
If you live in a country that does not petmit altering puppy regisrtation forms then don't worry about limited registration.
If you live in a country that has a strong breed club that has no tolerance for new owners changing the
names on registration papers to show them as the actual breeders then don't worry about limited registration.

These things do happen in America so the good breeders protect themselves by sending out pups with breeding restrictions. Breeders also have the option of removing breeding restrictions.

If you lived under this type of system you would do the same thing to protect your kennel name.

2014-11-25 12:27, IP: 95.87.236.221, from Bulgaria 4 positive reactions 0 negative
There are breeders in Europe doing all the appropriate health testing each year, working and titling their dogs etc. and they don't charge 2000 euros per pup. And an even bigger joke on top of that is you're paying that price for a dog on limited registration (can't be bred etc.) or co-ownership with 12 page long contracts dictating what you can and cannot do. Hell no.

If I were to pay that kind of money, I'd like to actually OWN my dog and that means I decide whether or not to breed it etc. Like I said before, unless that price includes full papers and shipping from a far away land ie. the dog is an import, the pup had better shit gold.

2014-11-25 05:39, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 2 positive reactions 1 negative
Sorry, wrong again.
The shipping from Germany to San Francisco is 500USD
Cost of pup 1800USD Cost of shipping is 500USD Cost of
cropping/docking is 500USD.
This is nowhere your costs. If you paid more than you were cheated.

2014-11-25 05:14, IP: 50.4.44.128, from United States 2 positive reactions 0 negative
The breeders that I know in North America are charging 2500USD for a pup and this includes
cropping/docking and shots. A pup from good Western European blood lines, health tested and titled.
You would be very foolish to pay 5000USD or even 3500USD.

Almost half of that cost includes the importing of the puppy.

2014-11-25 03:08, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 1 positive reactions 2 negative
I will break this down for you and explain why some of these bitches can shit gold.
For 2500USD you can buy a good bitch that has a excellent working pedigree, from health
tested parents. Train the bitch and when she is old enough complete all the health tests and
put a IPO title on her. IPO clubs usually charge 400/450USD a year for club dues. The cost of the health
tests can run 2000USD. If the bitch is clear of health problems and put to a good male the pups can be sold for 2500USD each. This includes cropping/docking. Depending on what the bitch whelped the litter could show a profit of many times over what the owner has invested. Some of the health tests need to be repeated next year but hardly the cost of the first testing. Breed a bitch three in her life and you will have your gold
as well as nice pups on the ground. The breeders I know usually keep a nice pup or place them with trusted club members. Cost of good healthy titled stud could run 2000USD. There are very few quality Western European Dobermanns in America. There is a market for these dogs.
American Show Dog pups can run up to 3000USD but then you run the risk of health problems.
Greedy breeders can support them selves and their familys on dog breeding they keep the cost down by faking health test results. This is why most good breeders put a limited AKC registration on thier pups.

2014-11-25 02:03, IP: 95.87.236.221, from Bulgaria 4 positive reactions 3 negative
You think even $2500 (2000 euros) is a good price for a puppy? And people wonder why interest in the breed is declining. For that price, the pup had better shit gold.

2014-11-25 01:28, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 2 positive reactions 0 negative
The breeders that I know in North America are charging 2500USD for a pup and this includes
cropping/docking and shots. A pup from good Western European blood lines, health tested and titled.
You would be very foolish to pay 5000USD or even 3500USD.

2014-11-25 01:08, IP: 50.4.44.128, from United States 0 positive reactions 2 negative
It seems to me that a lot of people only like the doberman because of the look and nothing else?

I do not think anyone wants their dog to die :( It cost between 3500 to 5000 U.S dollars to get a puppy here, so we definitely care about the health as well as the look. I personally like the crop/dock, yes, to each his own.

2014-11-25 00:10, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 3 positive reactions 0 negative
Someone should have a chat with Doctor Pezzano.

2014-11-24 23:32, IP: 130.180.250.202, from Serbia 8 positive reactions 0 negative
2014-11-24 23:01, IP: 93.174.93.145, from Netherlands 0 positive reactions 0 negative
Dead from DCM as many from Leo v Märkischen land

PHOENIX PARADISE Tromelin (Leo v Märkischen land x Lara Larina Tromelin) 16.03.2012 - 23.05.2014



Yes Leo is partly responsible,but look at Lara's pedigree (full of DCM dead dogs)
Akuna Matata,arbat aldo (snake bite in russia?lol,with 3% inbreeding on ebo..hmmm),Tigr,Ugor,Indira,Astor,again Indira,.....)
The worst thing breeder can do is to make line breeding on dogs which died from DCM.

2014-11-24 23:29, IP: 93.174.93.145, from Netherlands 1 positive reactions 0 negative

2014-11-24 23:01, IP: 93.174.93.145, from Netherlands 5 positive reactions 2 negative
Dead from DCM as many from Leo v Märkischen land

PHOENIX PARADISE Tromelin (Leo v Märkischen land x Lara Larina Tromelin) 16.03.2012 - 23.05.2014

2014-11-24 21:54, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 1 positive reactions 1 negative
There are several honest American breeders that work and title in IPO.
These people are using Western European blood lines, they health test
in an honest manner and title at honest trials. Most have close friends living
in Europa and several have visited to train and title. These people do not use American
blood lines due to the poor mentality. Some of these breeders have exported pups back to Europa.
Not many but a few. Some travel to Europa for breeding and there is no difference between
the quality of the litter when the whelping is done in North America. There is a big However.
EU requires that the pups have a Rabies shot at 14 weeks and have to wait an additional 120 days for
the blood to be sent to a lab to see if the Rabies shot took. This puts the pups age at about 6 months old.
Shipping is more expensive because a larger kennel is needed. If all this is not a problem you still have to
find a good breeder that health tests and IPO titles and is willing to keep the pup for an extended period of
time. It is expensive but if people are still interested in a cropped/docked Dobermann this is one way.

2014-11-24 21:12, IP: 91.2.48.104, from Germany 4 positive reactions 0 negative
You are kidding right?

2014-11-20 22:33, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 2 positive reactions 3 negative
WorkingDobermannbreedersproject.com

You will find many well known honest breeders there.

2014-11-24 20:30, IP: 88.114.163.85, from Finland 4 positive reactions 3 negative
First what WE ALL can do is stop buying from those breeders who don't care about healthy, only money is important to them, not doberman!

2014-11-24 19:15, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 7 positive reactions 1 negative
Mexico:
You are a very naive person. Who is going to lead the race out of the health and
political problems?
The very Clubs that should have protected the race have caused the problems.
The leaders that make policy and guard the standard have violated their own code of
ethics through corruption and graft.
Would you like to step forward and take charge of race???

2014-11-24 17:13, IP: 189.180.37.28, from Mexico 1 positive reactions 4 negative
People, really you sound like you are giving up your "beloved breed" and is kind of annoying. We need to seriously stop complaining and beginn to work, what is going to happen is going to happen no matter what, so instead of giving up -which by the way will be the cause of the end of the dobermann- do things to mantain the breed in the mind of the people. Less crying more action, seriously.

2014-11-24 15:38, IP: 77.4.163.59, from Germany 5 positive reactions 8 negative
2014-11-24 15:16, IP: 80.207.172.194, from Italy 0 positive reactions 0 negative

01/01/2015...................... the beginning of the end of the dobermann breed!!!

We will see!




no italy,

the big chance for a big change !!!



a dobermannlover

2014-11-24 15:16, IP: 80.207.172.194, from Italy 9 positive reactions 4 negative
01/01/2015...................... the beginning of the end of the dobermann breed!!!

We will see!

2014-11-24 13:12, IP: 95.76.206.187, from Romania 4 positive reactions 5 negative
Bla Bla Bla Genials !
the breed is destroyed for forever !

2014-11-23 22:20, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 3 positive reactions 4 negative
I have always said that the majority of the cheating is done in
America bucause they produce more Dobermanns that many other
countries combined. The breed club is weak and AKC does nothing to
stop cheating. There is no manditory health testing, no manditory mentality testing
no one to make checks that pedigree information is correct. No age limit on breeding
bitches and no set limit for numbers of breeding for males. However America is paying for
all this by producing poor quality and weak minded Dobermanns. No one seems to notice
because there is a market for this type of dog. My advice is Don't buy from North America.

2014-11-23 21:47, IP: 46.252.74.106, from United Kingdom 1 positive reactions 2 negative
America you should look in before looking out.

2014-11-23 11:47, IP: 77.4.162.150, from Germany 6 positive reactions 21 negative
viva il dobermann naturale al 01.01.2015

otherwise breed chickens !

2014-11-23 01:35, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 11 positive reactions 0 negative
I think people know the real problems in the race.
They are angry and using the forum as an outlet.
The problems is Commercial breeders using the ban
on cropping/docking in the West to sell their litters.
Greedy breeders using a popular stud dog a hundred times
for profit. Breeders whelping poor health litters and placing
the blame on the owners when issues come up. Out of control
breed clubs using the same old judges, putting up the same old
dogs of friends for money or favors. Breeders faking health reports
and information on pedigrees. Paying off vets or getting very creative
with their computers and copy machines.
Poor quality is now the new normal. I am far past angury.

2014-11-23 01:04, IP: 95.87.236.221, from Bulgaria 12 positive reactions 1 negative
I wish people would get this angry about the health problems and the corruption in this breed, instead of just at each other on a chatboard o_o...

2014-11-23 00:03, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States 7 positive reactions 1 negative
France:
Brovo..
Probably one of the best comments in long time.

2014-11-22 19:51, IP: 81.48.93.71, from France 31 positive reactions 1 negative
Stupid people who think because a dog is tested clear in 2011 & 2012 all is ok !!!!!!!!!!
You have a lot to learn about DCM !!!!!!

2014-11-22 19:10, IP: 87.169.28.127, from Germany 16 positive reactions 0 negative
Ahhhh stupid people, a dog can also inherit the disease if he himself is healthy !! The test is only a snapshot, nothing more!!!

2014-11-22 18:55, IP: 90.12.104.22, from France 11 positive reactions 0 negative
Your dog is only clear at time of testing, today you can test and he / she will be clear in 6mths time he / she can be dead, if you look at the 2 females mentioned see who they have in common on there pedigrees, there is something wrong with the mating's not just the stud dog who will always be blamed for bad things going wrong!!!!

2014-11-22 18:03, IP: 189.180.37.28, from Mexico 3 positive reactions 4 negative
Really nice Serbia those "fuck" arguments you put on the table are irrefutable. .... Actually It's really lame, just shut it if you don't have anything else to say, seriously

 

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