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2014-10-03 02:18, IP:, from United States 2 positive reactions 4 negative
I am so happy that you work and train your dogs in your garden.
Most of us like to train at a club then trial. Most of us want to hear what others
think about our training and titling. You can't title in your back garden.
Titling proves the dog and the worth of the owner. I can undersand if you have
failed in the past and now keep your dogs as pets. Most of us like to get out and
actually work with our dogs, really get to know the dog and make a good decision
on breeding to better the breed. Can't do that from a back garden.

2014-10-02 23:53, IP:, from United States 4 positive reactions 1 negative
2014-10-02 04:28, IP:, from United States

I work and train my dogs, do not need a judge to tell me if they are good, have owned Dobermanns for over 30 years. Tried the show thing I would rather buy a good dog than a bad judge.

2014-10-02 16:00, IP:, from United States 10 positive reactions 0 negative
The problem is that when DV hears that a person is talking about starting a new club, that
person is removed from DV. 25 years ago a small group tryed to start a new International Dobermann Club and all Webbs had to do was advise these new judges that they will be removed from DV.
Removed the same way Vogel, Schellmann and Richter were removed.

2014-10-02 07:17, IP:, from Romania 3 positive reactions 1 negative
Finding right leaders capable t0 do not sell and open a new era way is not easy . Remember what happened with WDB . He gone like a ballon . But for the first time WDB said that breeders want the changing .
In my opinion the principal fault is inside national clubs .These organisms already exist . These clubs members already are together . Then, who stop national club to decide in a international meeting a new club with new statute , to choice new judges coledge (there are many breeders which good knowledges about the race )new way , new ideologia !? I never heard about ONE club which rised his voice against system .
I don't know what happened with Serbian club and how much they rised againsts system for a new ideea of becaue they losted their priviledges !?
Anyway, not that is important . Important is what Serbians want to do in future . If they want changing in benefit of the race or only if they want the power and benefits . This is the question and Serbians must to respond to that !

I will tell you : these clubs are leaded by people subservient to this system which protect their little beneffit. The simply members have no power or the system is convenable for them . This is the real problem of this breed .

2014-10-02 01:29, IP:, from Serbia 1 positive reactions 0 negative
Romania, stop dropping slogans, it ain't helping - rather come up with something, anything that resembles a solution. Finding leader is easy - there must be voting every 2-4 years, but - who will make the body of breed judges? Which judges do you suggest?

2014-10-02 04:28, IP:, from United States 3 positive reactions 1 negative
These are empty words. You sound like someone that has never had their dogs
out of the back garden. Competing shows the dogs ability as well as beauty. How are you going
to find these good dogs if they stay home. Most Americans make the choice based on photos in
Dobermann magazines. Photoshop????

2014-10-02 03:23, IP:, from United States 2 positive reactions 1 negative
I agree with all of the last 10 or so comments and would be a willing contributor to the cause but I personally think the way to save our beloved Dobermanns is by each breeder. Forget about the shows and titles and focus on the dogs, stop going to the shows and you will not have to follow the money. The breeders and people who really care about the dogs and not the money will breed for the dogs and not for the money and for the those who make a living off the dogs (which is not a bad thing, breed for the breed and the money will still come). I again ask Romania not for a leader but for what dogs are left that can save the breed, I just want good Dobermanns I do not care about titles. You know who I am so you can email me or message me. I sent you a book.

2014-10-02 02:01, IP:, from United States 8 positive reactions 0 negative
Follow the money. A complete fincial audit needs to be done on
DV/IDC records. Open for all DV members and IDC menber countries to

2014-10-02 01:29, IP:, from Serbia 2 positive reactions 1 negative
Romania, stop dropping slogans, it ain't helping - rather come up with something, anything that resembles a solution. Finding leader is easy - there must be voting every 2-4 years, but - who will make the body of breed judges? Which judges do you suggest?

2014-10-01 21:40, IP:, from United States 8 positive reactions 0 negative
No we do not need a Messiah, but one would be nice.
We need people that are and have been discussed for years with the
poor leadership of a corrupted DV/IDC. A few old men that are incharge of everything
for a very long time. Time for them to go and the only way is to reduce entries at the large
shows. When they stop making money it will get their attention. Stop paying for Wibbs nice cars and
first class travel. Stop paying for his bar bills that cost more than the trophies he presents to his friends.

2014-10-01 21:01, IP:, from Romania 5 positive reactions 0 negative
Do you expect thar Messia will apear to save this race ? Do you wait the leader ?
Only a new conscience will save this breed . No one world lider have the power . Power is in you , in every of you ! I m a man undefeated by the system and i'm alone by years.
Imaginate your. all toghether power !

2014-10-01 20:31, IP:, from United States 4 positive reactions 1 negative
A new club needs a strong leader. Someone that has been involved in the race for a very long time.
Someone that has proven his/her worth as a outstanding breeder, someone that is or has been a president of a active Dobermann club. Someone that has a strong desire to avoid the mistakes that has lead to this mess that is DV/IDC/ Someone that is respected and can easily draw support. Enough support to cause people to leave DV and start an honest club void of the corruption that is DV/IDC.
Sorry to say the only two names I can think of are now in their early 70's
Please remember that the instant a name or names are presented these people
will probably be baned from DV/IDC.
Who do you dare to nominate?

2014-10-01 18:45, IP:, from Romania 2 positive reactions 0 negative
The design of new club must be freedom in breeding and love for this race ! I do not offer miraculousev solutions. Who i am to say who can be the leader ?
All of that must be decided only by members .

2014-10-01 18:18, IP:, from Romania 1 positive reactions 0 negative
Yes, that i mean . A new international dobermann club . This race breeders must be powerfull and capable to construct destiny of this breed ,not begging something from others . We no need something from somebody . We must to demonstrate that we have power to correct lead this breed . We can be partners but not slaves !
This i wish for dobeann breed !

2014-10-01 16:16, IP:, from United States 1 positive reactions 2 negative
Nice words and I support you all the way.
Please give us a blueprint on how all this can be accomplished.
Are you thinking about forming a new Dobermann Club?
Who do you have in mind for a leader?
What is the design for the new club?
How can we get involved and what do you expect from new members?

2014-10-01 14:13, IP:, from Romania 4 positive reactions 0 negative
We camn reconstruct this race , still is possible , still i saw right eyes , right character right things ! But we must to broken the bad past chains !
We no need idc, nor american nor fci nor to be slaves of politicianists clubs .
We are not slaves ! We are dobermann breed breeders and never will accept to be slaves!

2014-10-01 14:07, IP:, from Romania 7 positive reactions 0 negative
I do not believe that American club is the solution of dobermann breed .
The problem are jnside of this race garden , of breeders , judges and actual breeding system . The ears and tails are only a little part of problem . To focus dobermann race problems , grnetical, health, leaders, breeders, judges systemic problems and to reduce all of that only to tails and ears , is a error .
Doberman still is popular and sufficient numerouse to be a force and to construct a independent powerfull club .
Search the problem inside not outside , find solutions , renounce to bad things and leaders , offer freedom ,beeeders stay together, love the breed not the moneys and all problems will gone !

2014-09-28 18:33, IP:, from United States 7 positive reactions 2 negative
You get the end of the race.

2014-09-28 18:27, IP:, from Germany 3 positive reactions 5 negative
What happens when you cross the American line with a very bad European line?

2014-09-28 17:36, IP:, from United States 3 positive reactions 3 negative
Major health problems are world wide and people can not get away from it.
All I am saying is that the problems spread faster in countries that over breed
and do not have strong breed clubs. America out breeds Europa. America out
spends other countries in trying to find cures for health problems caused by
over breeding. Do you see the problem????

2014-09-28 15:07, IP:, from United States 12 positive reactions 1 negative
Not all American Dobermans are bad; Not all American Dobermans are good; Not all European Dobermanns are good; Not all European Dobermans are bad.

There are good and bad Doberman(n)s and good and bad breeders all over the world. You are a fool if you think otherwise. Rules and governments do not make good dogs. The messed up rules in Europe prove that.

It is "buyer beware" everywhere. If you do your home work you can find dogs that have good character and conformation and are likely to be healthy, but there are never any certainties. If you do not do research, you get what you deserve.

2014-09-28 01:41, IP:, from Romania 6 positive reactions 2 negative
Usa, about what infections posibilities do you refer ?
Probable you do not know that dobermamn breed is total infected and all europeam showlines have now same ancestors .

2014-09-28 00:14, IP:, from United States 8 positive reactions 0 negative
North America is not a FCI member country so they will continue to
crop/dock. Problem is there is no manditory mentality testing or manditory health testing.
People are free to make as many mistakes as they want and AKC will not get involved.
The primary Amercan Dobermann breed club has less than 2000 members and most of them are not active.
What is the use of having a good looking cropped/docked Dobermann when it will die young prior to infecting many more generations down the road.

2014-09-28 00:04, IP:, from Romania 8 positive reactions 1 negative
The peroblem is the politicianists which lead the kinology and dobermann breed , they actionate against this beeed , their actions destroyed health, genepool , freedom and originality of dobermann beeed .
But the bigest problem is that this beautiful race breeders have no power to construct a alternative , they preffer to be slaves of this show ystem , pated with few shining coups without value but fully by vanity and moneys.
This is the price of this race destruction .

2014-09-27 22:55, IP:, from Serbia 1 positive reactions 1 negative
Any change for cropping ears next year?

2014-09-26 21:52, IP:, from United States 7 positive reactions 2 negative
United States:
All the Kennel Clubs I listed are registries where people/breeders can go and
give false information to register a dog or litters.
AKC allows on line litter registration. There is no one going to check and force people to
prove if all information is true and correct. America has a free for all registration program.
All these registries provide a system for cheaters to thrive.
AKC is a business to collect, store and give out informatioon for money.
I never said I was an American.

2014-09-26 20:29, IP:, from United States 3 positive reactions 2 negative
Well, actually you are wrong. None of the pseudo kennel clubs/assocciations hold any shows or have recently except:

The American Kennel Club
The United Kennel Club

The States Kennel Club is defunct I believe and the rest are just registries for puppy mills and do not actuall hold any dog shows. If you really live in the US, you should know that.

2014-09-25 23:32, IP:, from United States 5 positive reactions 1 negative
If you want to compete in America you can use
The American Kennel Club
American Canine Association
National Kennel Club
United Kennel Club
Universal Kennel Club
World Wide Kennel Club
The States Kennel Club

All seperate kennel clubs. If you are not happy in one you can
go to the next poor quality club. I suggest you to stay where you are
because you are not going to find it better in America.

2014-09-25 07:44, IP:, from Italy 11 positive reactions 3 negative
The problem are the balls to leave FCI and Germany and enter in AKC

2014-09-24 13:38, IP:, from Serbia 13 positive reactions 2 negative
IDC 2014- cetiri zrela zigera,crni muzjak sa zutim ocima(ostale mane necu ni da spominjem),crna zenka sa roze zubnim mesom(isto ne spominjem ostale mane),braon zenka je jedna realna cetvorka(madjarska vizla ali odgoj od predsednika idc-a) i braon mozjak koji je realno ker za peticu ali je bilo nekoliko mnogo boljih braon muzjaka(pas je u suvlasnistvu Tomas Behta...sve je time receno)...,znaci dva psa za diskvalifikaciju(crni muzjak i crna zenka),jedna cetvorka(braon zenka),i jedan pas za odlicnu ocenu(ali nista vise od petice)DA LI IMA KRAJA TOM NAMESTANJU I DAVANJU TITULA TAKVIM LOMOVIMA,KRSEVIMA,DZUKELAMA ITD.....,DA LI ONI MISLE DA SMO MI SVI TOLIKE BUDALE ILI MOZDA I JESMO KADA IDEMO I DALJE NA TE NJIHOVE PRIVATNE ZAJEBANCIJE DA POPUNJAVAMO BROJ PASA...IDC,AIAD,CALIANDRO I OSTALE IZLOZBE KOJE SU PRAVLJENE ZA POJEDINE ODGAJIVACE IZ NEMACKE ITALIJE I JEDNOG IZ MADJARSKE....STVARNO SMO OVCE...

2014-09-19 07:24, IP:, from Serbia 10 positive reactions 9 negative
I agree ;)


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