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2012-01-04 12:01, IP: 62.22.12.38 , from
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I understand Wiblish priority is to to make, beautiful weekend all over the world with his wife in beautiful hotels. But what I don't understand how is possible for him to be so powerful and stay on main place so long time? And now it's seams Beht will replace him.This man is even much worst of Wiblish. Dobermann and Doberanns owners and breeders really haven't bright future if something not change.
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2012-01-04 11:18, IP: 130.76.96.156, from United States
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IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States
These rights from above were won from a long long time in USA, maybe you are from outside and you cannot understand yet or you do not agree with the rights of having opinions
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Well, my ancestors have been in this country (USA) for 150 years or so. I would guess from the way that you write English that it is not your first language, so who are you to be lecturing me on the rights of Americans?
Yes, in the USA we have the right to speak our mind no matter how ill-informed it is. No breeder sets out to breed unhealthy dogs. We do the research and do the best we can. Then after the fact we have piss ants like you throw grenades and call us bad people as if we intended to breed these unhealthy dogs. If you have all of the answers and know the secrets of breeding dogs with great conformation, great health, and great temperaments, then please share the secrets with us and get out here and breed some better Dobermanns instead of telling everybody else how bad we are.
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2012-01-04 09:58, IP: 90.191.240.243, from Estonia
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C'mon Dobermann Breeders!!! Please, could you stop writing your litter and dogs' pedigrees in wrong way. If you really are a breeder, you SHOULD know the basic of genetics and how to write pedigrees right! The male (and father and grandfather etc) has to be first (on top), and females on bottom. This is not suggestion, this is a rule. Take care!
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2012-01-04 07:44, IP: 95.74.177.134, from Italy
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The real problem of race Dobermann, is in Germany is not in Italy.
The Germany in the past 15 years have been significantly exceeded from Italy, with regard to the breeding and also the work.
This is the reality that everyone can see ..
Consequently Becht, promised in Germany, that he will be the new Messiah, and restore Germany to be the first nation in the world of the Doberman, inventing imaginative new rules of the DV, for to decrease the power of other nations.
But all this will not suffice to show the world what you not are.
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2012-01-04 07:21, IP: 95.74.177.134, from Italy
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Wiblishauser is not competent and has never been interested to know the genetic development of the breed.
For him it is more important, to make, beautiful weekend all over the world with his wife in beautiful hotels.
This was his main goal for in all these years.
All this is very obvious and ridiculous.
Stop Wiblishauser, Becht, Redenbacher or will be really the end of the Dobermann
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2012-01-04 01:44, IP: 130.76.96.157, from United States
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IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States
These rights from above were won from a long long time in USA, maybe you are from outside and you cannot understand yet or you do not agree with the rights of having opinions
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Well, my ancestors have been in this country (USA) for 150 years or so. I would guess from the way that you write English that it is not your first language, so who are you to be lecturing me on the rights of Americans?
Yes, in the USA we have the right to speak our mind no matter how ill-informed it is. No breeder sets out to breed unhealthy dogs. We do the research and do the best we can. Then after the fact we have piss ants like you throw grenades and call us bad people as if we intended to breed these unhealthy dogs. If you have all of the answers and know the secrets of breeding dogs with great conformation, great health, and great temperaments, then please share the secrets with us and get out here and breed some better Dobermanns instead of telling everybody else how bad we are.
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2012-01-04 01:04, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States
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"2012-01-03 23:25 • IP: 130.76.96.157 • from United States 4 positive reactions 0 negative
On the other hand, other than being Master Manipulator, I am not sure what contributions Wibby has made to the breed in his entire career? "
And on the other hand Mr USA , I didn't put in balance contribution of Wiblishauser with Pezzano's contribution. But it was very hard for me to hear from an Italian that only the german is responsible and their AIAD president is an angel ( by throwing the responsibilities only to Wiblishauser)
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2012-01-04 00:59, IP: 62.22.12.38, from Spain
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For Pezzano I understand he is intelligent and respectable man with big knowledge about Dobermann.
But who the f*** is Wiblishauser and how is possible for him to be so powerful and stay on main place so long time? He doesn't look very intelligent and also don't know much about breed.?
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2012-01-04 00:52, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States
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"2012-01-03 23:21 • IP: 130.76.96.157 • from United States 7 positive reactions 0 negative
While you are bashing Pezzano, please tell us what contributions you have made besides throwing grenades "
On the other hand Mr IP: 130.76.96.157 • from United States .
- I think that we have our right to say what we think.
- We have the right to be nervous and mad when we see that others do not care.
- We have the rights to fight against everything which is wrong.
- We have the right to think to and be near to those wich had a lot of tears when they lost as simple owners their beloved dobermans at young age because the irresponsible breeding politics of some breeders, one or more of them beeing also in charge at high level in giving breeding directions.
-I have the right to ask you : what right you have in conectioning my contribution with my right to say what I think ?!!!!
These rights from above were won from a long long time in USA, maybe you are from outside and you cannot understand yet or you do not agree with the rights of having opinions
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2012-01-04 00:46, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States
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America 130-76-96-57
Good post. Kaiser Wibby has lived off the DV and
IDC for years. This is his primary source of income.
He will garner any sources he can to keep himself in
power. Time to replace him with someone who has a proper
job and cares about the Dobermann as a breed. Wibby travels in
first-class while others are in economy. This may not bother good little Germans but it bothers me.
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2012-01-04 00:05, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States
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I am not bashing anybody Mr USA. I just wanted to show that the problem is not from only Germany now or Italy. The politics were bad encouraging bad directions.
On the other hand : so what if the 2 A's were beautiful dogs, a responsible breeder without knowing the health or genetic problems possibilities would have made a breeding between sister and brother ?!
Why let after the 2 A's early died to mate so much the progeny's of the 2 A's ?!
This world is not constructed only on breeders but also on owners which may become or not future breeders. Tell you the owners that their beloved dog at early age will die because somebody didn't care when he made the matings and encourages matings with dogs with great probability of health problems by placing them very high in show competitions like IDC.
I think that everybody if will be a first owner will go and see the show results of the parents if he wants a show dog, not everybody will stay on forums and chatboards to learn first the health problems of parents (usually hidden)
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2012-01-03 23:25, IP: 130.76.96.157, from United States
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On the other hand, other than being Master Manipulator, I am not sure what contributions Wibby has made to the breed in his entire career?
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2012-01-03 23:21, IP: 130.76.96.157, from United States
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I agree with Italy. Pezzano may have his warts and problems, but he has made many great contributions to the breed. He is almost single-handedly responsible for the allowance to still crop and dock in Italy.
Hindsight is always perfect. Do you really think he would have bred the "A" litter had he known how they would have turned out health-wise? They were beautiful dogs and he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head to breed to them. There are also many long lived Gino Gomez children.. Just tell me IP: 204.45.133.74 • from United States, which stud dog that has been bred a lot has not produced children that have died young?
While you are bashing Pezzano, please tell us what contributions you have made besides throwing grenades?
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2012-01-03 23:04, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States
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"2012-01-03 22:41 • IP: 109.55.216.3 • from Italy 1 positive reactions 0 negative
Dear friend, you're wrong.
Pezzano, I assure you, does not need the money from the Doberman.
Really He is passionate and competent judge of the breed Doberman.
His is a only human problem,( as we have all) namely the vanity of being a great breeder, and for me it is really a good breeder,
As I stated earlier, he have only one problem, which is called Wiblishauser"
Dear Pezzano's friend from Italy !
Yes, maybe you are right. I've heard that all the money he got from matings (several hundreds of towsands of Euros ) he gave to the poors :)). Do not joke,combination between wanting money and the vanity weren't in no times the ways to be correct.
Good breeder , in what sense ?
Tell us please at which age died Astor,Alfa,Tequila, Arrielle and why ?? Just the show results are important ?! How many Gino sons and daughters died and why , at what age ?
In your opinion what is a good breeder ?!
Why his thought is : who is not with me is against me ? If you are for real Italian ask your breeders from Italy if what I've written here is true or not
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2012-01-03 22:41, IP: 109.55.216.3, from Italy
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Dear friend, you're wrong.
Pezzano, I assure you, does not need the money from the Doberman.
Really He is passionate and competent judge of the breed Doberman.
His is a only human problem,( as we have all) namely the vanity of being a great breeder, and for me it is really a good breeder,
As I stated earlier, he have only one problem, which is called Wiblishauser
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2012-01-03 21:03, IP: 204.45.133.74, from United States
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"2011-12-29 10:17 • IP: 109.52.83.240 • from Italy 33 positive reactions 12 negative
The real problem is the incompetence of Wiblishauser, he has always done sieger, not important for evolution of the race..
Pezzano is a very competent person of the Doberman, but his problem is Wiblishauser and its policy."
Yes, Pezzano has a "great competence " maybe in Italian dobermann Mafia style, for his own pocket and for his close fiends. You in Italy had during the years some very great and brave IDC Siegers which won with the great help of your beloved AIAD president : like Angus Di Prisconte, Hangar,Ursula Di Prisconte, Bayron Del Tybur, so on, and a lot of others from other countries or Italy which were born from your beloved presidents dogs , IDC Sieger titles or 1 places given in this way helping him to get more and more money from matings.
Let me with this : Wibli is the only responsible for the bad evolution of the breed and Pezzano is very competent; the hundred of matings made by Citone dogs helped very much this breed to arrive to this bottleneck
Everything was done with complicity between Germany and Italy, so do not blame only one side
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2012-01-03 17:18, IP: 195.93.60.42, from Europe
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the letter "the end of tolerance" was a shot in the own knee!
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2012-01-03 12:58, IP: 79.41.74.241, from Italy
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http://inside-dobermann.blogspot.com/
this is amazing..................and unfurtunately is the truth
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2012-01-02 15:43, IP: 46.131.221.166, from Estonia
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2012-01-02 13:34 • IP: 75.23.184.186 • from United States
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Germany:
I agree. Nothing is going to be done until one day when the judge arrives at the ring and it is empty. But this will never happen because the low level breeders will flock to the ring thinking now they will have a chance at a real title. A title earned in a cheap manner but nevertheless a title.
You are wrong- the low level breeders are the first not to go. But the high level breeders who are placed year after year will not give up IDC because they have no interest in doing so.
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2012-01-02 15:35, IP: 80.140.170.53, from Germany
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United States:
That may be true, but perhaps these dogs are just as good, or maybe better and then they will have a chance!
Maybe some other bloodlines will emerge!
A girl may dream don't you agree?
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2012-01-02 13:34, IP: 75.23.184.186, from United States
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Germany:
I agree. Nothing is going to be done until one day when the judge arrives at the ring and it is empty. But this will never happen because the low level breeders will flock to the ring thinking now they will have a chance at a real title. A title earned in a cheap manner but nevertheless a title.
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2012-01-02 09:46, IP: 80.140.170.53, from Germany
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Happy new year to you'll!
The only way to change IDC show and make a BIG STATEMENT is NOT to enter your dogs!
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2012-01-01 14:43, IP: 92.2.20.166, from United Kingdom
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Happy New Year to everyone and their Dobes.
Because IDC 2012 is the same dates as the Italian Grand Prix, all hotels in the Desio area are fully booked.
Why after the last time in Desio when this originally happened - the show was delayed by 2 weeks - have these dates been chosen?
May
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2011-12-31 20:32, IP: 86.31.138.126, from United Kingdom
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Happy New Year to Everyone, whoever & wherever you are
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2011-12-31 09:40, IP: 89.216.188.222, from Serbia
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We NEED new Club, new World Championship and FAIR judging.Winners must be BEST DOGS.We wish to feel good on show not like clowns even if we lose and to applaud to finalist and winners .
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2011-12-31 08:27, IP: 62.13.19.234, from Sweden
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This evil IDC 2011 with 666 dogs is relay breaking point.The end of tolerance is reached.
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2011-12-31 08:15, IP: 93.103.192.138, from Slovenia
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Best reading I had in years. F*** those articles by clown experts about tolerance and how to judge and breed. Look at IDC judges :))). People should know about the real problems. We want MORE truth.
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2011-12-31 04:57, IP: 83.164.25.158, from Austria
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From Dobermann Insider - I LIKE IT !!!!
IDC 2011 HUNGARY.... THE WORST YET....
Let us start with the selections of IDC Winners for 2011. We know from previous years, there have been many political selections... and unworthy winners such as Hangar, Hilo, and so on... but 2011 is indeed special on how terrible the selections were, how arrogant and foolish the judges are, and how the good name of the IDC is destroyed.
SIEGER 2011 - DOBERGAARDEN FOREVER ATHOS
A dog with NO working qualification... passed his ZTP after 2 attempts... is scared of his own leash and collar... and has pink gums... And years ago, Wiblihauser and Pezzano were throwing out dogs with pink lips... So how did this male dog win the title of Dobermann IDC Sieger??? Remember that the Dobermann is still considered [ at least to most people] as a working dog breed...
I bet she can beat up Wibli anytime... and maybe she does...
In July 2011, Wiblihauser had already ordered the Siegers will be with natural ears and undocked tails.
So.. which dog can qualify for Sieger title? Think about it... there is no undocked/uncropped dog from Germany, Italy which has any quality for winning in international shows.. The only one from Germany is Orson Nemesis.. and he is too young [ they will make him Jugendsieger of course]
So, look at the next few countries which are the humble and obedient friends of Germany - Scandinavia...
And there was only ever one dog - Athos.. He was shown mostly in Germany, he was placed and won under German judges and even got one German title... [ that is when he did not compete with Orson in same show..]
Never mind he has no IPO.. never mind he is weak character.. they will make sure he passes ZTP under a judge they will arrange... and never mind he has pink gums or weaknesses.. after all.. which dog can ever be more ugly or worse than the great German Sieger - Hilo Nemesis?
And so he wins... There was no other dog they would use...
But anyone who knows the breed can see clearly he is NOT deserving to win. In the finals for males.. even Zeus, Dante were far superior.. in fact, even Maxim would be better dog.. even though we have much to say of his owner..
2011 IDC JUGENDSIGER - ORSON VON NEMESIS
Anyone who was at IDC will agree the judges, especially the Italian Mafia - Pezzano, are blind. Indeed, they were judging using special glasses, made in Germany by Wiblihauser's factory, the DV..
There were already present many youth class dogs of superior quality.. such as Urano, Quickstep, Don, Max, F'Willow, and many others. Look carefully at Orson.. see his curved skull, average body and poor expression...
Yet... this is the dog selected by Pezzano to be the IDC Jugendsieger... why?
Because Nemesis and Pezzano and Wiblihauser all have special relationships. Just go to their kennel websites, and see how they breed each others dogs. And we know Nemesis is the only kennel which wins in Germany [ that is how bad German breeding is now] and Orson and his litter mateds have picked up every show and title they can in Germany. Orson even placed in the Group for the FCI Dortmund show.
And he is German
And he is uncropped, undocked.
And he is German.
Thomas Becht said at IDC - "the Dobermann is German breed. We are taking it back to Germany.."
Yes indeed they have tried this. One German dog must always win in IDC... 2011 there were 2 winners.. both in Junior class..
And so we are very sure now Orson will be IDC Sieger in 2012, or 2013.
notice the one big Mafia gang there.. and the Hungarians stand away...
He will also surely win World Winner at the 2012 World Dog Show.. why?
1. It is held in Austria... where Mr Karl Reisenger comes from. [another servant of IDC]
2. Cropped and docked dogs not allowed to participate
3. Judge is Hans Wiblihauser
4. Orson is German.
Did we also mention who is his mother? Of course, it was the last German IDC Siegerin.. and another winner with no IPO, and only a few shows. Of course, each show she went to, she won..
and now we come to our favourite winner....
the one, the only...
IDC 2011 JUGENDSIEGERIN - KYRANA VON BAVARIA
Truly the best example of political and biased judging ever in history of IDC...
Proud Breeder/Real Owner and false owner together
Let us simply state some facts...
The breeder and owner of this female is... IDC President Hans Wiblihauser...
The Judge was - Thomas Becht.. do we have to say anymore??
She is uncropped and undocked....
She is German.
Kyrana is the world record holder of show success.... imagine this- she has ONLY EVER BEEN IN 2 SHOWS in her life-
1. CAC show in Germany, 26 09 2010. - BABY class, V1 - Judge = Armin Hoppe [ German of course]
2. IDC 2011 - Youth Class - WINNER...
WOW!!! She must be the most amazing female show dog on this planet. 2 shows only, and both times the winner and now world junior champion of the breed. Amazing. Mr Wiblihauser is indeed the greatest breeder and very proud owner of such an amzing female..
Speaking of breeder... now we also see this-
Pezzano's last Sieger dog, Ale Alamos Citone has been bred with Wiblihauser's other ugly female, Irinland Olympia - see here http://www.von-bavaria.de/
The last time Olympia was mated.. to another Seiger of course, Hilo Nemesis.. she only produced one puppy.. And guess who is the owner of this puppy? See here- http://www.von-bavaria.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&Itemid=27
Thats right.. that is Gaia, owner of Ale Alamos, and fiance of Pezzano's nephew..
So many interesting connections...! perhaps the words 'fairness' and 'equality' and even 'nobility' are missign from their vocabulary.
Finally...Yes, also do look at Olympia closely and that terrible croup of hers and her many faults.. yet this bitch went on to be World Winner, and every German title too. Of course, no IPO or any working qualifications. it was too obvious to make her IDC Siegerin, so let her children go for it...
IDC 2011 SIEGERIN - WAY OUT WEST BLAZING EXPRESSIONS
who is she????
I will say she is the best among the rest of the winners this year.. but really.. when i heard she was selected as Siegerin.. my first question was ' WHO THE IS SHE?'
I am sure most of you too said the same...
Can you truly say she is better than Vivien Zoosferry, Eureka, etc? Since she has no IPO or working title, we assume she is selected for beauty alone. Sorry, I think there are nicer looking females out there for sure.. And her show record is also poor - only maybe 1 show outside Sweden or Finland.. Is this considered a World Champion for beauty?
But the question, in light of so many renowned and successful females... why her?
1. Judge for her class was the Redtenbacher.. the man who bought his judging licence and is extremely close to Wiblihauser and who has zero eye for Dobermann. He was instructed which dogs to place.
2. She is now to be mated to Hilo Von Nemesis [ that is the agreement if she wins ] http://www.blazingexpressions.dinstudio.se/text1_13.html
3. Her father is Zylain Zais Citone, the handler in ring is Davide [ Italian Dobermann Mafia]
4. She has uncropped ears, undocked tail and lives in Sweden [ IDC colony of Germany]
By the way... have a close look at her pink lips too.... maybe it is to balance with the Sieger Athos?
2011 IDC BROWN SIEGER - ANGUS PRISCONTE
We do not need to say anything. This must be the ugliest Sieger ever, more than Hilo maybe...!
The breeder, owner is well known as the best friend of Mr Pezzano... The judge for the class was Hans Wiblihauser.. And we know very well too the antics and corruption of Mr Aldo...
2011 IDC BROWN SIEGERIN - DIXIE DAYTOMA
Daughter of ? Ale Alamos Del Citone
Judge ? Redtenbacher....
Just compare her to the World Winner, Blaze of Glory Del Fiorsilva.... or maybe 10 other better ones..
And please notice the placings and winning by other breeders and owners...
PERLANERA - Amazing to win so many classes and placings... WOW! Since they were in Hungary, might as well reward them for being so obedient to IDC, and give Mr Istvan [ who is going to be a judge now] some nice trophies.. even when majority of his dogs are badly cow-hocked and lack size and bone.. But if you notice.. he wins every year, ever since 2007 when he uses much CITONE in his breeding...
MONTE ASPRO - Almost out of the blue, the breakthrough kennel of the last years, especially 2011! Many placings and nice trophies... owner/breeder is.. Attilio Prolifrone..
He is the student and successor for Pezzano in judging and taking over AIAD [ which is the also private club of Mr Pezzano]
ALL SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF CITONE, NEMESIS...... ALL EXCELLENT RATED AND MOST PLACED.
IN FACT, THERE WAS ONLY TRULY ONE DESERVING TITLE WINNER... THE BROWN FEMALE JUGENDSIGERIN - AURORA VON AMBASSADOR.
AND JUDGED BY TAMAS DAHOCKZI....
MAYBE HE CAME TO HIS SENSES??
AND OF COURSE, WE MUST MENTION THE GREAT FEMALE WORKING BITCH WINNER...
STELLA VON KLINGBACH
Breeder? THOMAS BECHT
Judge? PEZZANO
Notice how this female always wins under these judges? .. Behct even judged her himself to first place in a big show...
The final summary of IDC 2011 can be seen by the results of the Breeders' Group-
1. Pernalera
2. Kriegerhof
3. Nobili Nati
Has ever in recent memory any of these breeders never won or placed in any class?
So, my friends, there you can see now the reality of IDC show winners....
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Perhaps the World Dog Show in Paris, or some club shows was a much better competition and results for the International display of the best Dobermanns for 2011. Thankfully it was not hijacked by the IDC mafiaso.
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2011-12-30 22:40, IP: 62.44.135.18, from Denmark
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2011-12-30 17:51 • IP: 93.162.248.173 • from Denmark 2 positive reactions 0 negative
2011-12-29 11:01 • IP: 212.37.144.206 • from Denmark 30 positive reactions 5 negative
2011-12-28 23:18 • IP: 166.36.163.139 • from United States
Thanks for making my day. This blog is certainly worth a visit! :-)))
I am so happy you had a nice day B.J. from Denmark!!
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don't have a clue as to what you are referring - not my IP number, nor my entries ...
PS: I ALWAYS sign my entries
Bitten
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2011-12-30 19:37, IP: 79.1.71.84, from Italy
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http://inside-dobermann.blogspot.com/
I LIKE IT!!
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