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Unread postby Lucia » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:11 pm

Kennel Nuova Dolce Vita (Slovakia) - history:
http://dobermanns.sk/history.htm
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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:04 pm

Welcome Lucia !
Please,looking in your site http://dobermanns.sk/black.htm, is corect Era z Písečného ostrova or Fera z Písecnéhe Ostrova ?
http://www.dobermannvereniging.nl/modul ... edid=25450

Great paternal line from Armin v.d. Eich and Phaon v.d. Scholle .
http://www.dobermannvereniging.nl/modul ... edid=25448

Anyway, I think the mother is the same, from Jaguar v. Weinberge , Vento v. Fürstenfeld and v.d. Spree

Great blood-lines, unfortunately many of them losted in ignorance !
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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:48 pm

I find pedigree of Era z Pisecneho ostrova come from Ivo v. Schloss Grossau.
Fantastic working genes from Falk v. Rotbachtal and maternall fully by v. Schoole .
http://www.dobermannvereniging.nl/modul ... edid=40925

Congratulation.
My advice: if you can find any corect old dog from old line , make inbreeding on him. Or Go with him to the best not second hand !
Unfortunately many from Slovak lines are losted. Really, life is un-fair sometime!
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Unread postby Lucia » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:21 pm

Czech-slovakia dobermann breeding history is very interesting. Breeding was directed during communism time. Breeding test was very hard character test. Dogs lived for long ages, we didn´t know what is HD, wobbler, stomach torsion ect. At the end of communism the dobermann world was opened. Unfortunately these old lines based on working dogs DDR and Austria are died off. Czech-slovakia dobermann hadn´t bombastic exteriour but very high character quality! We can meet offsprings from kennel Bobrava, Z Pisecneho ostrova, Z Martinovy veze and other kennels on working championships with very good results till these days. I´m big fun and admirer old Czech-slovakia dobermann for their unique character, unfortunately regeneration of these lines isn´t possible. We haven´t sufficient quantity breeding dogs :?

I´m preparing web page about history Czech-slovakia breeding of dobermann with photos and pedigrees.


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Emir Bobrava (1981, Jack v. Dammberg x Brony Bobrava)
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Unread postby Weinberge » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:53 pm

Lucia wrote:Breeding test was very hard character test. Dogs lived for long ages, we didn´t know what is HD, wobbler, stomach torsion ect. At the end of communism the dobermann world was opened. Unfortunately these old lines based on working dogs DDR and Austria are died off.


Many try to change and hide this truth.

LEARN BIG BREEDERS ! LEARN THE TRUTH !
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Unread postby Weinberge » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:12 pm

Lucia wrote:I´m big fun and admirer old Czech-slovakia dobermann for their unique character, unfortunately regeneration of these lines isn´t possible. We haven´t sufficient quantity breeding dogs :?



yes , they have UNIQUE character. The rest is..what i say 4 years ago..one joke without teeths :lol:
Is true, we do not have suficiently regeneration power. But try, search and return the line back if is possible. If not, go to the best from new lines , don;t breed more in danger ! and enter in 'circle' !.
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Unread postby Weinberge » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:37 am

Lucia, why you do not searcj one stud like Kravallo v. Schmiedbauergut ? He Get WM 2008 3-place.

His father Jano v. Bayern is fully by Weinberge and old Austriac line Schoole like your old line too.
http://www.dobermannvereniging.nl/modul ... did=157577

Mathernal he comme from Heike v. Eifelturm and have Z Pisecneho Ostrova .
http://www.dobermannvereniging.nl/modul ... edid=82056


Do you understand ? Go AT him to restore yours old genetical structure.

Nobody not can resist after 3 or 4 consecutive out-cross generations. The matrix of yours dogs will be changed. Turn the line back on them ! and after enter in 'circle' ussing the best , in other case you can lost forever the old genetical matrix .
You can, because your line still have the genetical keys to make click .
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Unread postby Lucia » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:55 pm

http://www.cs-dobermann.com

A website devoted to the so-called old Czechoslovak Dobermanns
(however in czech leanguage only)
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