ROmanian dobermanns - looking to the future

Unread postby Weinberge » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:55 pm

Juliane Weinberge Avatar: For SALE !
Because the market is fully by surrogates , how much can cost a true Furstenfeld Diamante ? The price is 10.000 EUR. Probable she will remain unsolded, with me :-)

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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:00 pm

He's Ironblack , the son of Fantom in Black and a very ancestral female.

Today I meet Ironblack .
His father Fantom make a good job , without to be a show dog he is sweet and sufficiently correct . Sure, his blood ancestrality still is strong , his tipicity still is old , but Fantom imprim a nice body and head , both testicles..waiting and hope correct dentition..
Is fast..is smart ,his masyer told to me that always his attention is on him, he never ron to afar .
I smiled in my mind. He have the gene.

Forgot....one Ironblack sister is near Jano Weinberge Avatar . Jano and his brother Jago (Cristian male) are best my males from Diamante .
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Unread postby Weinberge » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:10 pm

Like a story ....15 years ago two females went to Sibiu..
Arena and her best daughter, Braiana , grand-daughter of Baron Bryan Harrowsberg, sister of Magna cum Laudae champion Valencia Brissili ....
About Braiana arrival on Sibiu and what happened with her blodline..only few persons know that ...
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Unread postby Weinberge » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:34 pm

......I remember Braiana, ...not a very tall female but sufficiently strong , with a new and modern head inherited from her father....black brilliant eyes , a dragon neck ...When has 3 monts she brokened one leg and entire life has a leg problem. She never was showed in Expo ....

Braiana was a dominant female .
Around 1 year she start battle with her mother Arena for supremacy . O my God....Weinberge battle !
In this battle , one of them brokened my grand-mother finger ...
After this battle I sended her in Sibiu to a friend which own a dog like a Gladiator . :-)
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Unread postby Weinberge » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:38 pm

Heracleea Heart , half sister of Sonny del Citto
No mandible :-)
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Unread postby Weinberge » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:39 pm

After the chatboard atack on Sonny del Citto and his half sister Heracleea , what do you think that happened ?

My mail is fully by questions if Citto is for sale anymore :lol:
No, is not for sale, he remain in kennel .

Probable they understood that a powerfull bones obtained from a dog almost fully paternal HD A , without skeleton imense today problems of molosoidal lines , with genetic based on +11 years Gino and best Q Citone litter , with D'acciaio Quinn Nobili Nati and D'aciaio via Alfa Citone via Kira del Caimano , with best old and new American presance in pedigree, with best old Italian presance in pedigree, with Faun Vom Weinberge and Jack Vom Weinberge presents by 200 times in line base , like Citto Citone is , even his products are not perfect, never will be egual with surrogates .
Because a D'aciaio is a D'aciaio.

at the fine another dedication with a molosoidal head. LOL
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Unread postby Ferdinand » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:58 pm

With american do you mean???

AGONY ACRES DEVOTEE OF ZENO

who died at 5???
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Unread postby Weinberge » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:07 am

Irongate Weinberge Avatar . Still alive .
Is almost a impossible thing but I try a legal infusion with pedigree type A , ussing OLD ORIGINAL NONMOLOSOIDAL GENES and NOT another Surrogate from other alien race.
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Unread postby jotunheim » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:13 pm

Alin ...

Why do you write "still alive" ??
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Unread postby Weinberge » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:05 pm

Because her maternal bloodline is losted, she s one of last descendant.
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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:18 am

Paternal bloodline is Hungarian one (from middle breeding period) :

GRAF BOLERO RAMELER MARKE
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... edid=81950
BARI NAPSUGAR
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... did=205010
MATTHEW DEI NOBILI NATI
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... edid=58966
LYZ DI CASA RAVASI
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... did=169070
QUINN V ROVELLINE
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... did=124091
DORIENTAL CINDY
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... did=169290
DORIENTAL ONDRA
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... did=177139
DORIENTAL ZEUS
http://www.dobermannpedigrees.nl/module ... edid=14686

The maternal bloodline is a FULL & ANCESTRAL ROMANIAN LINE based on :
ARANY-SARCANY DARLAN
AYRAC DE ALBAC
PALKOHEGY LURKO (COR2/143)
SOVARADY KITTY
and ...the basical bloodline (grand-mother) is a secret element

That's all . No one from trend champions .
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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:27 am

Yes, there is the TRUE HUNGARIAN AND ROMANIAN ENTIRE HISTORY !
I don't know if I will save them , but for sure, will be not easy to kill them !
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Unread postby BasKal » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:51 pm

What you mean when yu write about "secret element" - isnt the pup registered properly and the pedigree fully known?
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Unread postby Weinberge » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:19 pm

BasKal wrote:What you mean when yu write about "secret element" - isnt the pup registered properly and the pedigree fully known?


Sure they are registred and have pedigree type fully A.Maternal he fully come from Romanian line.That Eastern/Romanian line was general longevive and I have nothing to hide, but I don't talk for moment about that .

In reality they can not help me and I don't know how much I can help them, they are owned by simply owners which nothing know about dobermann . If the general system is not favorable and capable to grow new breeders/owners (for the moment still exist a antagonism between breeders) I can not substitute for forever this weakness .

This antagonism is generated by this ill system , by problems....This antagonism will dissapear when the equilibrum will be found . The breeding is a colective game, is like a lake , if appear a wave in center or on corner...will be sensed more or less, by entire surface .....Or..in dobermann breed happened colossal Waves , maded by imense errors ...

That pupies was affected by parvovirose , now are skinny and was lucky that they are alive without expansive imunocorps injections like my pupies haved benefit....
In reality I maked infusion on their bloodline not inverse . Probable is to late to save something...the destruction is too deep..sometime I ask myself if I can save my bloodline . 20 years to late .....

Today I asked myself..why the Big Breeders, foreign and Romanians, don't helped this bloodline when that was possible , when country was full by numerouse beautiful dobermanns , fully by longevive females , and not today, when is phisical impossible .

Then..the Big Breeders products will die like surrogates and nobody can help them , because is IMPOSSIBLE to save them. The Big Breeders and Judges was so smart that they destroyed exactly the anticorps !

This ill sysem is exactly their creation and they are and will be more and more caught in proper trap , like rabbits

Then , my Arena is damned to go ahead alone, I can't return because that mean to out for forever from this breeding system, because I like or not, , in this system we lived today. In the other hand my bloodline can lost totally all health advantages and can die in this Show Arena of Death .

Then...because Diamante Nero genetic is convenable for me and I sense an equilibrum, I decided to WAIT.
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