Are today's breeders destroying the future of the breed?

Are today's breeders destroying the future of the breed?

Unread postby ins0mnia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:46 am

When I think of a "Dobermann", I think of a breed that is founded on "old" German bloodlines lines. A working dog with an excellent mentality, health and longlivety.

The Dobermann is a dog that is capable of being both a service dog and at the same time serves as an excellent family dog. The Dobermann is supposed to be sleek, alert and is able to "think" by himself, not a robot that is good with listening to commands and serves an only purpose of being a show dog.

When I look at today's Dobermann and compare it with the Dobermann from the 70's, I see a dog that is on steroids, massive chest, big head but with very little thinking ability, a dog that unfortunately barely makes it to 9 and is bred merely for the purpose of competing on shows. Are we breeding Dobies or Rotties?

What happend to our service dogs? to the our war heroes? why is it so that German Shephard is the number one choice for service work?

What I feel is that today's breeders are simply destroying the breed. There are extremely very few breeders that breed using old german blood lines and try to preserve the Dobermann as it should be.

I feel that competition, prestige, money, shows whatever have come first. As Valencia once wrote, I challenge any show dog with an IPO title to pass the "park" test, the real life test.

I fear that in a decade or so old blood lines will disappear, and the "true" Dobermann breed will disappear with it. And yes I am pointing my finger to most breeders that care only about looks and titles rather than health, life span and temperment. You're turning our favorite breed into a Great Dane, a dog that barely makes it to 7.

I'm sure I'm gonna get some negative feedbacks on this post. So say what you have to say.
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Unread postby Weinberge » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:52 pm

I leave a short story in Romanian topic about what you said.
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Unread postby guiliver » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:45 pm

actually the no1 choice for work is malinois and dutch shepherd.

may dobs are bigger our days but dnt be so sure that has lost much of his character. do not forget that it has become a mainstream guardian breed which means that will be handled by a big group of owners of various experience. is not everyone ready to handle a demanding dog

in the end of the day if your cup of tea is a more explosive dog the working breeders will fill your need. if your cup of tea is an elegant dissent guardian dog the rest will satisfy your need. likely even the show dogs they still bite and guard.
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Unread postby ins0mnia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:44 pm

Valencia, I checked the topic and this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about! I hope many are following up on your post!

Guiliver, I'm sorry but this is more that just about "my cup of tea". It's about preserving the blood line of the breed, and it's about life span! how many dobies make it to 10 nowadays?

remember an empty "cup of tea" is just an... empty cup!
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Unread postby jotunheim » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:44 pm

yes - the breed is being destroyed ... soon the Dobermann will merely be a figurette, for all to admire

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Unread postby jotunheim » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:44 pm

double post - sorry
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Unread postby Ronindobe » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:50 pm

Hi Insomonia! With you on these concerns as you know.
At least Bitten and Jotunheim are working intelligently to do what they can to combine dogs to improve the breed. Bravo to she and Lars!!
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Unread postby Weinberge » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:53 pm

Do you know how many dobermanns are in my town today ?
7 or 8. From them 5 or 6 are mine(or in my co-partnership) , under my protection, the rest probable without pedigree .

Today was general meeting on my town Kennel. Our Vicepresident renounce to breed dobermanns after he lost both his dobermanns by tummors . He ask me : 'INCREDIBLE !' How is possible only 7-8 dobermanns ?'
Seem to be possible !

Today dobermann is a expansive thing many time with health problems , is part of a entire industry , it is not for any family ,must be breeded by Specialists and selected by trainers .
This is the point where we arrived .
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Unread postby Weinberge » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:19 pm

More than 20 years ago , in a single CAC catalog page exist more dobermanns from my town that today in entire my town.
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