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2010-09-09 21:25:59 ::: IP:95.236.24.223 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Italy
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2010-09-09 19:16:44 ::: IP:87.12.249.138 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Italy
but it improve the cash of his owner and the genepool of our breed go in a bad way......we need new blood in the breed and in the judges
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2010-09-09 19:16:44 ::: IP:87.12.249.138 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Italy
Also at this IDC 2010 has been proclaimed by Mr. W-iblishauser the usual Sieger political- male black, who will not serve really to improve the breed,a film already seen many times
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2010-09-09 05:58:34 ::: IP:93.138.52.24 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Croatia (Hrvatska)
For the first time in my life - I totaly agree with Valencia :)....
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2010-09-08 11:04:38 ::: IP:84.249.181.63 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Finland
I liked the black female who was winning open class, diden't she have ZTP? She was the best dog in this IDC if you ask me ;-)
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2010-09-08 09:59:44 ::: IP:204.45.133.74 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from United States
For me all is clear and i am not willing to talk to Valencia.
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2010-09-08 09:53:54 ::: IP:109.106.244.5 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Serbia
My answer was directed to France. Not interested in your conversation with Valencia. To me, it's all very clear.
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2010-09-08 09:46:33 ::: IP:204.45.133.74 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from United States
@ 2010-09-08 09:31:28 ::: IP:109.106.244.5 ::: from Serbia
Dog can win a class with no ZTP, but can't win the IDC title. Probably one of the class winners black females didn't have ZTP so she couldn't participate for the title. Hope it's clear now : )
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Valencia says : "ZTP must be native , without trainers and accessible for all the dobermann lovers."
"Hope it's clear now", Serbia?
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2010-09-08 09:31:28 ::: IP:109.106.244.5 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Serbia
Dog can win a class with no ZTP, but can't win the IDC title. Probably one of the class winners black females didn't have ZTP so she couldn't participate for the title. Hope it's clear now : )
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2010-09-08 09:09:10 ::: IP:213.233.66.12 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
No need to remove the ZTP restrictions but the ZTP must be native , without trainers and accessible for all the dobermann lovers.
the restrictions of siegers titles must be completed with health and longevity restrictions.
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2010-09-08 08:40:33 ::: IP:83.115.122.228 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from France
I did not think you could win if you had no ZTP!!!!
Did they change the rules again?
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2010-09-08 05:00:08 ::: IP:89.136.57.192 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
...then..remaining c).
Q.E.D.
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2010-09-08 04:59:09 ::: IP:89.136.57.192 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
but..this is not possible....maybe only when show breeders will look from the ring borders how the working lines win the beauty shows.
LOL .
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2010-09-08 04:54:27 ::: IP:89.136.57.192 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
False. Probable when all the dobermann lovers will request that .
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2010-09-07 20:35:19 ::: IP:212.178.229.166 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Serbia
Probably when you organize the IDC.
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2010-09-07 19:56:15 ::: IP:89.136.57.192 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
When will be the moment when the response will be :
PROBABLE ONE WITH NO NATIVE ZTP and LONGEVITY ???
On the other life ?
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2010-09-07 19:41:50 ::: IP:212.178.229.166 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Serbia
Probably the one with no ZTP.
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2010-09-07 19:41:50 ::: IP:212.178.229.166 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Serbia
Probably the one with no ZTP.
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2010-09-07 19:29:19 ::: IP:83.115.122.228 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from France
Why was there only 3 Black females in the ring for the Sgr.title??
Which female was missing and why?? Does anybody know?
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2010-09-07 15:40:37 ::: IP:89.136.57.192 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Romania
Specialists can read here the Valencia answer
http://www.dobermann-review.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=22695#22695
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2010-09-07 14:16:02 ::: IP:95.236.24.223 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Italy
for 2010-09-07 13:43:20 ::: IP:204.45.133.74 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from United States
yesssss 5 time
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2010-09-07 14:15:03 ::: IP:95.236.24.223 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Italy
for 2010-09-07 11:05:11 ::: IP:80.156.11.222 (hide posts from this IP) ::: from Germany
no no, I only see that naemi is amazing but her pedigree is a bomb, also in the others 2 idc siegers, I know that alfa died at 6 and arielle at 7 and astor at 8......a lot of m litter von der Rauberhohle died too young and daughters and sons from them also died in a young age.
I hope that they live a long time with no problems but the pedigree told me another thing
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