Roveline line

Weinberge · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: Roveline line

Weinberge · Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject:

HATTIE V ROVELINE (FALKO V. D. INSBERG x ELFIET (LOSH 448342))
HERA V ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x FARAH V. D GUSKECHOEVE)
HIVA-HERE V. ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x FARAH V. D GUSKECHOEVE)
HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x FARAH V. D GUSKECHOEVE)
HYNDI V. ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x FARAH V. D GUSKECHOEVE)
JACQUES V. ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x HATTIE V ROVELINE)
JENNA V. ROVELINE (HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY x HATTIE V ROVELINE)
JOUK V. ROVELINE (FLEGON FALEK V. DIASPORA x HYNDI V. ROVELINE)
KAZOU-KHER V. ROVELINE (FLEGON FALEK V. DIASPORA x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
KUNO KANNON V. ROVELINE (FLEGON FALEK V. DIASPORA x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
LADY LEVINA V. ROVELINE (ALI V. LANGENHORST x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
LAIKA V. ROVELINE (BARON BRYAN V. HARRO'S BERG x JENNA V. ROVELINE)
LEILA V ROVELINE (BARON BRYAN V. HARRO'S BERG x JENNA V. ROVELINE)
LEMA V. ROVELINE (BARON BRYAN V. HARRO'S BERG x JENNA V. ROVELINE)
LENA LEONA V. ROVELINE (KAZOU-KHER V. ROVELINE x HERA V ROVELINE)
LIA LORENA V ROVELINE (ALI V. LANGENHORST x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
LORRETTA-LYNN V. ROVELINE (ALI V. LANGENHORST x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
LUCIFER V ROVELINE (BARON BRYAN V. HARRO'S BERG x JENNA V. ROVELINE)
MAGIC-MAGIE V. ROVELINE (FALCO DE LOS VALIENTES x HIYA HEBE V. ROVELINE)
NAT V. ROVELINE (LUCIFER V ROVELINE x SCHUTZ GINA)
NATHY V. ROVELINE (LUCIFER V ROVELINE x SCHUTZ GINA)
NEW-NICE V. ROVELINE (BARON BRYAN V. HARRO'S BERG x JENNA V. ROVELINE)
ORSON V. ROVELINE (FELA V. FRANCKENHORST x LEMA V. ROVELINE)
PATHY V. ROVELINE (GRAAF QUIRINUS V. NEERLANDS STAM x NATHY V. ROVELINE)
PAVLO V. ROVELINE (LUCIFER V ROVELINE x HIVA-HERE V. ROVELINE)
PETULA V. ROVELINE (GRAAF QUIRINUS V. NEERLANDS STAM x NATHY V. ROVELINE)
PHILCO V. ROVELINE (HARGOS V.H. WANTIJ x LEMA V. ROVELINE)
QUEENY V. ROVELINE (LUCIFER V ROVELINE x KARESSE V. RAUBENSTEIN)
SHOGUN V. ROVELINE (NINJO V. NORDEN STAMM x LEMA V. ROVELINE)
SYDNEY V. ROVELINE (NINJO V. NORDEN STAMM x LEMA V. ROVELINE)
SYDNEY V. ROVELINE (JUDIFAX FANTHOMAS x QUEENY V. ROVELINE)

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:59 am Post subject:

Odin v Roveline, passed Belgian korung and ZTP.Brother of Orson, Greek Chmpion.
He is only in greek pedigrees I think.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject:

Modern descedants of Odin V Roveline in Greece: (Horama) Demetra 2xCAC, 2nd best attack at the DVGr Sieger show 2006, (Horama) Dienekes RCAC HD-A1 Best greek dobermann puppy 2005, Horama Horama IPOIII TOC EEIP Best of breed at the greek breeding show, and little Kiki (Horama Dinokratis-Horama lulu's Calypso). They have aditional Roveline lines from Laila v Roveline, and New Nice v. Roveline.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:

Horama Horama IPO III at seven years going V1 at working class, with her co-owner Stefanos, and her tween sister's son (Horama) Dienekes, going best greek male at this show (he beated the Brown CAC winner, the Working class winner and the youth winner all top dogs.Dienekes is a 3rd generation descedant of Odin. Horama Horama and Dienekes mother Horama Hera are Odin's grandaughters):

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject:

Good female Horama. And male is not bad. Have one interesant combination between new and old head tipicity. Good front chest.

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject:

If i look well have Odin head tipicity. Strong genes after 3 generation.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:

Male has a very long and strong head. He is more anchestral in appearance than his ant Horama Horama who is a tween with his mother (same placenta). His father is a dog inbred to Baron Nike, but has more Roveline blood from his grandfather Zivago di Casa Coppo. The dark mask also come from Zivago-Overdrive di Casa Coppo.
Kiki is a little female (4 months) with an extremelly long and strong parallel head.She is a daughter of Dienekes brother Dinokratis who has a more modern and beautiful head than Dienekes, and her mother is a daughter of Ch. Zivago di Casa Coppo also.
A head study of Zivago.He was the top male in Greece for many years:

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

Yes their very long heads and somewhat slight stop come from Odin and Laila V Roveline, but they have Zivago's qualities also. Zivago had Roveline blood from his grand father Kaiser Mark di Casa Coppo (Shutz Gentle Guy - New Nice v Roveline, Shutz Gentle Guy was a son of Kazou Kher v Roveline and Hiya hebe v Roveline).

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

BasKal · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject:

Odin is a puppy in this foto.His head became extremelly long and parallel when adult, and his body whas strong to. He was about 72 cm and 48 kg at show contition Dienekes is 72 cm and 53 kg. Odin's stop was slight like his mother Lema and brother Orson. His best characteristic for me was his very strong character which was passed in this line.
The little grandson of Horama Horama IPO III, HoramaVict (Flegon v Haus Liopiris - Horama BlackBeauty, a daughter of KevinKing del Citone and Horama Horama a very high drive bitch), is the personal dobermann of top Chez helper Joska Kubec. He says that he is a very good pup for work, and a beautiful one to.

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject:

No need to say me about good character and qualities of Roveline lines.
All this lines is one base for dobermann breed like others lines.
This is the resistence of dobermann breed and i think one MODERN performance have root and base in one basic and strong lines (i not reffer only at Roveline) .

Mr. Pezzano say : All great kennel have one basic old great female.I think have right.

BasKal · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:00 am Post subject:

Our next litter ("C" of Synglisis) will be by Imitz Tango Valour Land HD-A and Kevin's Princess of Synglisis HD-A (KevinKing del Citone-Horama Sunset). It is based on the Roveline theme in our minds.The "genetic glue" will be Lucifer v Roveline, (4 times in the pedigree of Kevin's Princess via Tequilla) and Lemma V Roveline, (2 times in the pedigree of Tango via Shogun and Orson). Also Lucifer is present in Tango's father Hainide Rolls Royce pedigree. Secondary there will be a linebreeding to Prinz, via Astor del Citone and Baronessa Zova Renewal. Tango introduces something new in my lines :Quirinus. I avoided Quirinus in the past, but his importance is more and more evident.So, we will see. Quirinus is a son of Dea Dolores v Franckenhorst and Kevin's maternal grandsire was a double Dexter v Franckenhorst grandson this is what I call sex linked linebreeding and worked very well in my racehorse matings. This litter will be for us only if we will be lucky, we dont want to sale the pups. Maby we will co-own some of them.This is the mother, Kevin's Princess of Synglisis:

Weinberge · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject:

I write two pedigree.
First:
3 time HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY 4-5-6
2 time LUCIFER V ROVELINE 3-4
1 time GRAAF QUIRINUS V. NEERLANDS STAM 3
2 time VIVRE VIVIEN V FRANCKENHORST 3-5
2 time JAGO V BEELEN 5-5
2 time HERTOG DONA V. MANENSHEIDE 5-5

Second
6 time HERTOG ALPHA V LE DOBRY 3-4-5-5-7-7
3 time LUCIFER V ROVELINE 3-4-5
2 time GRAAF QUIRINUS V. NEERLANDS STAM 2-4
3 time VIVRE VIVIEN V FRANCKENHORST 4-4-6
2 time JAGO V BEELEN 5-5
4 time HERTOG DONA V. MANENSHEIDE 5-5-6-6

Choice one ! How you consider this genetical scheme?

BasKal · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject:

The second is more interesting for me, but one thing that has a big difference for me, is the balance between male and female kids of a certain dog or bitch on whom I do the linebreeding in a pedigree.For example, Hertog Alpha has many sons in pedigrees but not so much daughters.If I would like to do a linebreeding to him, and I have a bitch who her pedigree has many lines to him via his sons, I would like to mate her with a male who is descented from some of his daughters if possible.