Traditional lines in Grece

Teo · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject:

Thank you Alin! Very Happy

I will look for some infos more: very interesting dog!
He has some "type notes" of Villa Castelli in the general impression!

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

Yes is courious. Have Villa Castelli type over other pedigree ancestors type.

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject:

And you Teo already Know. This typicity is my favorite. But..is time....

Teo · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject:

I know I know...you've time to add in the future and you know I appreciate your breeding perspective. Very Happy

Oh, as for Villa Castelli type...Icaro's power!!! eh eh eh!

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject:

Yes Icaro..but not with any female. I work at this Wink

. You know.

Teo · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject:

I meant somewhat Icaro's type influence or dominance in reproduction;
I know your programs, but remember for the next generation...eh eh eh! Very Happy

P.S. one more Cascrifil

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject:

This is one sister. Charisma. Fantastic head similitude with same Villa Castelli.
P.S. I not forget next generation, but i search the next of the next.

Teo · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject:

This is a very very beautiful girl!

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject:

BD why not mate at Athos di Villa Castelli to fix yours female power? I am interested in future by one this combination.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject:

I like these two dogs very much, but sorry, i cannot see Icaro there. Icaro and Navarre visited greece and my impression of them is different. Icaro's head is closer to el Diablo I think, if you dont mention color. There was a time I could identify Icaros progeny from fotos as a quiz, without the help of the names he was a stamper. Off course Teo knows him better than me, and for a bigger period of time...
They are excellent and in a way individualistic animals, possesing many good qualities of their ancestors, but their appearance is unique (for me).

Teo · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:21 am Post subject:

Ciao Baskal,
Cascrifil gives Icaro's impression and has some traits of Villa Castelli type also in his boby costruction. Obviously he's not Icaro's copy but I find some interesting similarities. However his head gives me (at least on pics) the impression of being a little longer. His neck is typically Villa Castelli and his body -with his being "not extreme"- reminds me a stronger young Icaro. El Diablo has the same Icaro's upper head profiles but he is much different from his father. Navarre, in my opinion, was something really different: his head was...the head; I mean Icaro had an amazing head but was (in my opinion) a little short, while Navarre had longer with more cisel and with more contained cheeks. Maybe Icaro's was "breathtaking" but Naverre's was more correct.
Don't misunderstand me: we're talking about two superlative dogs, one (Icaro) in my opinion more complete and with a more correct body; the other (Navarre) with some mistakes more in costruction (height, substance and front angulations) but with a deram head.
If I would be C Black Division female owner I wouldn't have any doubt in using El Diablo in order to fix some Villa Castelli type notes... Very Happy

P.S. In my opinion the descendant most similar to Icaro is Athos, at least in the general impression!

Weinberge · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:

I think is one hight tipicity similitude between this two dogs. Or Antheus is one Villa Catelli. I not refer strictly at Icaro.
I must to accept both have Gamon Campovalano influence and Royall Bell.
I like this tipicity in this combination much more like Icaro because is more strong but keep all Icaro shapes.

Weinberge · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:36 am Post subject:

I sugest at BD Athos di Villa Castelli . Teo is the specialist in this line.
He sugest El Diablo. Good choice and El Diablo. This characters NEED to be FXED forever and used . This head tipicity is unique.

Teo · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:42 am Post subject:

Sorry for the worst quality of Icaro's pic: I took it with my mobile from an old magazine...but...who is who?
Maybe my judgement is influenced by knowing two of them really well but...three different dogs with many similarities

Teo · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:44 am Post subject:

Alin, I suggested El Diablo also because, for what I know till now, he lives in Cyprus... Very Happy

Athos would be a good choice too...and in my opinion maybe better (bacause of more diluited Gamon presence): everything depends on eyes colour and darkness