Traditional lines in Grece

BasKal · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:23 am Post subject:

On the contrary, he breeds for character first. He uses pure working males in his matings more often than every other breeder (Akim Wasiweba, Hertog Conan v Mannenseide, Baron v Lechfeld at this time he has a litter by Hainide Nemrod Chuck, a very hard working male who is not a great beauty), and also he prefers to breed to show males that passed the korung, like Orson v Roveline.Even Prinz v Nordenstamm was chosen for character first-he didnt like him much as a type, but his character was great.
As a judge and as a breeder he is very "artistic"'.I dont think that the "old type head" was nessecerily bad for him.In the first show who judged in Greece, he awarded the "excellent" grade to a male, BECAUSE this male had the old type v.Raufelsen pyramidical neck, which he thought lost for ever.
He also picked the American bred Ch.Holmrun Phabio v Marienburg for the second mating of Tequilla, because he had a gorgeous eye color and very correct position of eyes, and a great brown coat.This is art.

Weinberge · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject:

Baksal, i see in frontpage of review - youth presentation- one god males from Grece with good pedigree : Imidz Tango Valjur Land (Hainide Rolls-Royce x Rensdorf Barcelona)

BasKal · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

Yes, Tango is a very good young male with a very good character also. I know him from when he was a puppy. He is owned by friends. I think that he has good potential.

Weinberge · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject:

I see you and your friend make good things in Greece.You have some very good dobermanns.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

Horama "E" litter sisters Horama Estia (Kirki), grandmother of Vice Greek Dobermann club Sieger Kevin's Son of Synglisis, and Multi CAC-RCAC winner Horama Eris, also best puppy in breed at the DvGr Siegershow. She gave birth to a daughter named Amazing at her 7 birthday.
They are by Rambo v hof Ter Eeckhout ( Orki v de Wietekes Hoeve - Pasha v hof Ter Eeckhout ) and their mother is Tamal (Choremis Kreon - Itaca de la Ripuaria ). Itaca's line (Sir Harold v Franckenhorst - Giada di Montespino) is the oldest pedigree female line in Greece, but Choremis Kreon line via Tamal is older. He is the first pedigreed dob born in greece with descedants which thrive and multiplying (and winning).Choremis Kreon (Unic du Carre D'as - Biona des Landrys) was a tail male descedant of Graaf Questor van Neerlands Stamm, and a maternal greatgrandson of Medina dei Pianni di Praglia, via Wendy v Franckenhorst.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject:

Horama Estia (Rambo v hof Ter Eeckhout -Tamal) with her pal and mate Kevin King del Citone (Astor del Citone-Crystal Conny del Citone).Their grandaughter Kevin's Princess of Synglisis expects from Imitz Tango:

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:

Some results from other "E" litter females:Horama Nestor,(KevinKing del Citone - Horama Elpis), Horama Almaz (Fundamental F2 Argo Aick-Horama Eleftho), a bitch much admired for her expresion by top judges Florindo Coppo and Ilona Ostenshenk who rated her Excelent 1st in junior class in special show, when juniors could be awarded only Very good :

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

I like this blood and head expresion of this two female .First Grece line. Good work !

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:17 am Post subject:

I see haus liopiris kennel mate with Ferro. I like this female with Renewal blood . Interesant combination at Elektra vom Haus Liopiris , inbreding 2/2 in Baron Nike.
Next generation need new lines because few faults can appear if insist too much in Prinzz lines and in one next generation.

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

This horama Troas.She is closely related to Elektra, but with a combination of Tamal's line, and Jivago di Casa Coppo.She will be mated to Ferro also in the future.
Inbreeding to Prinz can cause long hair.Electra has very good short dence hair.Electra is the result of my choise for a good mate for CAYA Cirrus, between my Horama "c" girls. I am quite happy with her, she is a very succesful continuation of Horama line.For me Ferro is perfect for her as a phainotype.We will see.

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject:

Excelent this males .

I found other Grec excelent males and i liked very much.

Black Division Cascrifil

Have basic Naplemente (Doberhill and Urgehati Maya and beautiful Abbas Egeloh) Gamon, Nitro, Renewal and Icaro Villa Castelli blood. Excelent head expresion from Villa Castelli and one strong blood.

I am inloved by this Villa Castelli head tipicity in one excelent combination .

BasKal · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject:

Yes, he is a very beautiful greek bred dog from Kastoria kennel Black Division.He is very inderesting and his sister is also very typy.
By the way, Troas is a female. Rolling Eyes

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject:

Ups

Sorry for neattention. In this next pict is more clear feminine typehead..

Teo · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject:

Ciao Alin & Basile,
who's the beautiful brown guy? I didn't understande his correct name (name and kennelname...)!
Can you tell me (or just link me) his pedigree?
Have I understood right he has Icaro and Nike in his blood?
Thanks in advance,
Matteo

Weinberge · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject:

Ciao Teo
Kennel is Black Division from Grece. Name is CASCRIFIL .
Father is NESTOR FOR ETERNITY (CAMPOVALANO and RENWAL) . Mother is TAHI REME RIBIZLI , one combination between ICARO and TAHI REME WALLY and NITRO.
At IDC 2006 win 3-th young class. In pict have 14 months.
With pleasure.