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|Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: History of Romanian lines -by Valencia.
|History of dobermann from Romania.
Some time ago when i read old catalogs from ‘70 years , in one last catalog i found where is born first female and first kennel from Romania. First female from Romania was Sovarady Anni (COR 1- 6CAC, CACIB) and Sovarady Kitty (COR 13). First kennel name was Sovarady and not ‘ Tomis ‘ how I think initially. Anni will be the maternal heart of all lines from Romania.
Much more, Ani was born in Sfintu-Gheorghe-the town of my friend and mentor Sipos Andras -, Szaraz Bartalan was first owner and breeder from Romania. Because Anni was born in Romania, this mean Sovarady is and first kennel from Romania.
I search the significance of Sovarady world and i found much more like one word.
" Sovarad(Sarateni) is a little locality from 56 km near Târgu Mures near river Târnava Mica, in one narrow valley between mountains and hills cover with forests. Recent discovers certify material and spiritual life from Prhyistory after Modern time.Fortify construction certify for sure synthesis between dacian people and romans –two diferent tipe of civilisation- in one superior mode. Sovarady is the Romanian simbol of synthesis between Dacic and Roman wolfs.
At beginin exist 3 columns of basic blood , who develop in paralel , first base(Sovarady Anni) assimilate the second two. Exist and other secondary brench but all born from first basic blood, and new blood was assimilate immediate. Sovarady is the maternal base , with soft and malleable blood, who prove tradition and continuity and power of assimilation and transformation.
The second two basic columns was masculine and have patern role. These was develop in paralel in one true ring war many years. First is MUNDIAN, son of NAPLEMENTE GOX (BK HCH,CSSR SIEGER,HDGy,2HPJ,5HFGy,Club gy.,INT CH) and MUNDIAN REGINA(2xRPJ,BK HCH,3CMBR,2CACIB,2JPGy,4RCACIB,HPGy) with many WEINBERGE generation. I talk about INT.CAMP.MUNDIAN GOX and his brother MUNDIAN GORSIM. Strong and with fire character, not know fear , they develop one true dynasty.
Naplemente- Father of Romanian lines
First Mundian step is maked by Gox with Lady De Tomis daughter of primordial Sovarady Anni. Gyengye Atilla owner of Mundian Gox introduce Lady de Tomis in his kennel “de Kronag”. Between Amera Diana de Kronag (multi CAC) and Ro.Ch.males Alex Trol Treff Blak (grand-son of Doberhill Earl Song, breeder Trif Constantin , owner. Nirestean Radu - Sibiu -4RPJ,21CAC,7CMBCR) result Ro.Ch. Django Bengal Dositri(Alex Troll Treff x Amera Diana De Kronag-owner.Trifu Cristiana-Sibiu),grand –father of Ch’ 95 Valencia Arena.
From Gox and Ro.Ch.Alfa Black Magic Cristal was born in Brasov at breeder Szabo Ladislau in Szakron kennel Ro.Ch.Szakron Duro-Cormos (2RPJ,4CAC,2CMBR), one beautiful dobermann with one super character . Cormos life in Sfintul Gheorghe at one of my friend .Between Cormos and Ro.Ch.Lee Sierra Delphy (Ro.Ch.Droll- grand-son of Doberhill Black Earl Song x Corsica Puma El Greco) was born brothers champions with one OZN super-character my Night si Hann (owner my friend Constantinescu Valentin from Buzau) , two friends and rivals in some time.
Doberhill Black Earl Song(2HFGY,RCACIB,IUG CH,R CH, CACIB) was son of lui Guy’s Hilo Nordenn Stam and beautyfull Norvegian female Int.Camp. Gissele Veste Otsberg.
de NEVADA kennel (Sierra Ciprian Ajax x Sierra Ezra Edda) was founded with same blood in one inbreeding with Mundian Gox line and Ro.Ch. Deli Szel Amanda (Int Ch. Naplemente Gox x San Remoi Lena) –Owner and Breeder my friend Langer Erno -Sfintu Gheorghe. Reprezentative was Ro.Ch.Axel de Nevada -owner.Savulescu Radu- Bucuresti si beautifull Anita de Nevada –my best friend Dr.Sipos Andras –Sfintul Gheorghe.
Gox brother, Mundian Gorsim and Atena(Ro.Ch.Darlan x Dora Schwarzwald) born Ro Ch.Britta de Tessprim (breeder. Ionescu Marius owner Paulov Ditmar -Lugoj), one beautiful female at this time. Britta blood and Tessprim line will be choice to survive and in present. For sure, will be result hundred of other brench but only this will be survive in time.
In 16.sept.1984 in BRASOV show-rings was happened Titans reunion at champion class : Father of Romanian line Int.Ch.NAPLEMENET GOX –owner Pettko Csaba-Budapesta,Mother of Romanian line Int.Ch.MUNDIAN REGINA N.1977 -owner Petnehazi Sandor-Budapesta, Ro.Ch.AMIR STANI –owner .Szabo Ladislau-Brasov,Ro.Ch. ALEX TROLL TREFF BLACK N.1982 owner. Nirestean Radu-Sibiu,Ch. MUNDIAN GOR owner .Petko Zolt-Budapesta, Ro.Ch.ALFA BLAK MAGIC owner Szabo Ladislau-Brasov,CORSICA PUMA EL GRECO N.1983 –owner Radulescu Catalin-Ploiesti, Int.Ch.MUNDIAN GOX -N.1982 owner .Gyengye Atilla -Brasov.
To Gyengye Atilla and MUNDIAN GOX i see for the first time with one show ocassion. Mundian participate at Veteran class . Only his name was one legend between we .When i see first time i am impresionated by this old warrior.Gox have one fantastic steady power.Even if was old was immovable , was one personification of war good who not know dead fear. Was one conqueror. He penetrate my mind , my eyes and heart in one second. Is fantastic, i never not see one of this personality at one dog.
The second masculine basic blood was develop by Ro.Ch.Aranay-Sarcany DARLAN with paternal ascendance same Weinberger and maternal Doberhill Black Elfi from himself Guy's Hilo and beautifull
Gissele Veste Otsberg.
DARLAN have great reproduction value,and result with Ada males Aytac De Albac(multi RPJ, CAC) father of much power Ro.Ch.’89 years Megyasreme Aris(breeder.Trabalka Carol –Medias , owner.Sireteanu Dan & Viorica-Bucuresti) and Asir de Tiffana(Arany Sarcany Darlan x Evematty Black Dora-owner Tarta Lucian , El Valaho Kennel -6RPJ, 9CAC, 3CMBCR) other great ‘reproductore’ wah say his word in time. Darlan was the best close ascendance in Guy's Hilo V.Nordenn Stam.
Ayrac de Albac was strong and compact male, short, well balanced temperamental.This things will be imprim at all his descendance.The best product of Ayrac was Aris. Aris was one impresionante male. In first time he broken you with his balanced temperament and power.Short and strong , much short like high with one fantastic chest , Aris was the alone male who can stay near Dino in ring. Strong head, very good paralelism, very little round eyes and little dark fire sign maybe was some little faults but Aris if live in present he can win many rings.
Go ahead, from Aris , Victory Corona Alma- breeder Patrichi Florin ,owner my friend Grisha win many GRAND PRIX.
One description maked now by my old friend Grisha(owner of Ro.Ch.Victory Corona Alma -many BIS Winner ) description of Ro.Ch Django Bengal Dositri (RoCh Alex Troll treff Black X Ro.Ch.Amera Diana Kronag) grand father of Ch.of Ch. '95 Valencia Arena :
"Django is the exacte copy of his father Ro.Ch. Alex Troll Treff Black. If i suppose you look at Alex Troll Treff, you see Django.
Django was one strong and elegant males, in same time more high like medium (was 72-73 cm), have one very short and strong superior line , maybe little round croup and because have low insertion of tail.
The head is strong very well proportionated with body, very lean and extent skin, in fact like skin of entire body.
Eyes was corect,have corect dentition,normal neck, maybe bones appear little light because have one very strong and high body.
Corect back angulation but maybe not exactly like i wish.
If look at pices of body, nothing memorable but in second when look at Django (like one all unitary strong , elegant and short) Django get imediatelly attention anybody. I like Django very much.
Django no have many shows, have only 4 CAC and BOB but have one very good result and Win in champion class in 88-89 years, at Sibiu one Elvetian males Eros V.D. Waldstatt, the males who Win in face of Dino Vienerwald (Junior class) at BOB Timisoara. One year late , Dino get revange in face of Amadeus V. Frankenland.
About Django character , Django was very well balanced, not know fear and not have agresivity. Have only basic training but i think he was very hight working potential. "
Darlan line develop in paralel with Mundian line many years. Was one true war between this paternal lines.The acuses was bi-directional .Was one honor law to nobody not deliver. For sure, near this breeder exist many others judges and dobermann lovers , some knowed other not knowed: Dr.Molnar Zsolt, Kocsis Sandor, Kellemen Atilla, Apostol Ctin.
I like to mentionated and other few lines who was asimilate by first three.Valdimora Boston Pluto(BK HCH,K1,HPGY- son of Naplemente Borek),Zelilaki Anda (6CAC,4CMBCR,HFGY- Int.Ch.Lux V.Kiffhauser daughter ),Arany Sarcany Ebre(Doberhill Black Falk x Naplemente Arry),Arany Sarcany Andra(grand –daughter of Augury Weinberge si Delphin Weinberge),Evematti Black Dash(Doberhill Earl x Zelilaki Anda),Angyalvary Black Cardinal(Doberhill Earl x Zelilaki Anda-CACIB), Jester Beau William(Angyalvary Black Cardinal x Jennis – 6CAC,2CMBR),Canda V Freidorth (COR 52-Doberhill Earl Song x Arany Sarcany Andra).
Is good to remember and males with good ascendance Wolffenbuttel Black Veron (Doberhill Black Kanon x Schwarzwald Dolly N.1981 owner Judge Molnar Zolt - Satu Mare).
1988-1990 was years when breeder sense new blood necesity. This appear in Timisoara when two great titans was imported: Int.Ch. Dino V. Vienerwald –owner Spinu Florin (niknamed Dinozaurul) and Brissili V.Abc.Public- owner Matici Radivoi(RPJ, CAC, CACIB) , this last was son of World Champion Baron Bryan Harow’ s Berg.
Dino V. Vienerwald
Dino have something unique, one impresionante power and one unique chest what i not see at other dobermann never . Is shocking ˇ I waiting 15 years to know the secret of Dino chest and last year i found the response from Florin, Dino owner : ‘I do not know!’ was the response of Florin niknamed Dinosaurus.
After 10 years of vanglorios individual work the rival lines will be consciously by proper plus and minus and will be unit in all country. Will be born ARENA, ALMA and beautiful OHDRA and little late BRISTOT YG and YVETTE- owner Dr. Molnar Szolt.
Ro.Ch.VICTORY CORONA ALMA.- owner Florin Patrichi was born from same blood from Megyasreme Aris . Was one champions who win many Grand Prix.
Ro.Ch.AGENOR BLACK OHDRA (Alex Troll Treff Black x Amy-Aris ) was one much-beautiful female from Bistrita, owner Blasianu Calin.
RoCh,Ch.’95 -VALENCIA ARENA (Valencia & El Valaho kennels )was female who unit all principal Romanian brench with Dino Vienerwald blood. Was one longevive female who life more than 12 years. Reprezentative was Magna Cum Laudae Champion VALENCIA BRISSILI , who win 31/31 first title and 4 Grand Prix .
Brissili son was one brother CID-ul(Brissili ABC Public x Afra de Aranca) –breeder & owner my friend Alexa Cristian from Deva. Afra de Aranca(Dino V Vienerwald x Zelilaki Doni –owner Dogar from Sinicolaul Mare , owner Taga Alin & Alexa Cristian ) down paternal from Branko Drei Birken-7CAC, CACIB,BD.SG and Naplemente Kiwa and maternal from Prinz Weinberge and Naplemente Kingsem .
Other brother was Ro.Ch. Killer de Dobernic (Brissili ABC Public x Ro.Ch. si Inv Moscova Alice), breeder Niculescu Nicolae (my permanent rival and now my old friend from Brasov).For remember and Ro.Ch. King de Dobernic(Dino V Vienerwald x Alice-owner Tarta Lucian- El Valaho kennel) .
Breeder and judge Dr. Molnar Szolt , working with one paralel Arena line from the same Tessprim and Amy-Aris(Ohdra mother) and Hungarian male Champ. Graff Bolero Rameler Marke ,obtained in his kennel « Bristot « other two champions. Y.G. -owner Tarta Lucian and YVETTE –Valencia Kennel.
Graff Bolero Rameler Marke
The brench who begin from Yvette will be lost in anonimity even if born beautiful puppy with Brissili son. Yvette brother , Bristot Y.G. will be much fortunately when mate one last mating with old Arena and born Masa El Valaho . Masa was the reunion of Romanian all champions and born in El Valaho kennel, the oldest kennel from romania. Masa was the prove of El Valaho tradition.
This happened and This is the vertebral column of Romanian line who know many bifurcation and paralel lines. For sure, was entered and other lines but was asimilate. Maybe not imediately because exist war ring and ambitions but at the finish breeders becomme like brother and give his hands together for one new begining. After 1995 years , when old Valencia Brissili at 6-7 years , lost the ring in face of new imported male Int.Camp.Graff Tilla V.Nordenn Stamm (Floijdt V. H. Savelsbos x Gravin Issis V.Nordenn Stamm- Int.Ch, Ro.Ch. C.E.E.Ch. 1999 38xCAC; 3xRESCAC; 10xCACIB; 4xRESCACIB; 21xBOB ;12xBOG ; 7xBIS ; 4xRESBIS BH ; SchH 1), –Focus kennel- this last battle changed Romanian lines Destiny’s in face of two new ambitious breeders Focus and Zamolxis. But this is for the moment because now Phoenix reborn again two new Weinberge Mohicans .
The today breeding :