SG Alisha Ashlan Blekitny Kanion
(Napoleon Nils z Diabeli x Evita Evra z Innej Bajki)
SG Dobergaarden Forever Caya Carisma
(Maxim di Altobello x Lola di Altobello)
SG Elegant Line Samba
(Zordan Zewi del Citone x Ferrona iz Velikogo Knyazhestva)
SG Elegant Line Sorbonna
(Zordan Zewi del Citone x Ferrona iz Velikogo Knyazhestva)
SG Fidji Arone de la Villa Valiano
(Grand Mollis Armani x Verone Taiswan de la Villa de Channes)
SG Laridana Tikrai Nauja
(Livonijas Baron Hitch Cock x Borana di Altobello)
SG Ophira v. Nemesis
(Fedor del Nasi x Helena v. Nemesis)
SG Pride of Russia Urbanita Brava
(Urbano del Diamante Nero x Barselona Brava iz Doma Domeni)
SG Pride of Russia Uriel
(Urbano del Diamante Nero x Barselona Brava iz Doma Domeni)
SG Sabba of Blackmagic Land
(Pharo of Blackmagic Land x Lara of Blacmagic Land)
SG Taiga Daker
(Fedor del Nasi x Ornella de Grande Vinko)
SG Amina di Caresi
(Esprito Val di Taro x Ines di Perlanera)
SG Ancksunamun v. Ambassador
(Fedor del Nasi x Zemic's Arwen)
SG Cellie v. Sschwarze Kraft
(Ares v. Schwarze Kraft x Feary v. Dunav Stam)
SG Cessie v. Sschwarze Kraft
(Ares v. Schwarze Kraft x Feary v. Dunav Stam)
SG Could You Be Loved California
(Hero di Casa Fox x Nambi Pambi de Rizzi)
SG Could You Be Loved Coco
(Hero di Casa Fox x Nambi Pambi de Rizzi)
SG Diona Dolchinea v. Schwarze Kraft
(Maxim di Altobello x True North Sharon)
SG Dobergaarden Forever Cika
(Maxim di Altobello x Lola di Altobello)
SG Dobshangri LaMia Kontessina
(Kontessina Keks x S'Lichobor Kenzo)
SG Dolores di Casa Margot
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Athena di Casa Margot)
SG Eden della Ninfa Nobel
(Elixir della Ninfa Nobel x Twain Ginga House)
SG El'Dofroshe Zelinda Zolda
(Modus Ost Primor Pilot x Alegro Rubi iz Doma Domeni)
SG Farahnaze del Palazzo di Shanta
(Dejan-Dovenic del Palazzo di Shanta x Bomba-Datina del Palazzo di Shanta)
SG French Kiss du Temple de Kali
(Toronto's Zargo x Atlantis Abyss du Temple de Kali)
SG Future LineFelicie Volta
(Modus Ost Wild Wind x Sant Kreal Ukrashenie)
SG Gem'Givveeon Angel
(Grand Mollis Armani x Gem'Givveeon Lambada)
SG Grusholm Nova
(Yankee v. Klingbach x Lucky di Altobello)
SG Hermosa Hermione dei Monti Cimini
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Unica di Casa Balestrieri)
SG Hohpelia de Gipeuca
(F'Hiram-Abif Royal Bell x Ferry de Gipeuca)
SG Lady del Fiorsilva
(Red Rascal del Fiorsilva x Lizzy del Fiorsilva)
SG Lady Luna Milano Home
(Chester v.d. Topferstadt x Evita Milano Home)
SG Lemon Lu Milano Home
(Chester v.d. Topferstadt x Evita Milano Home)
SG Loira v. Hunnoterra
(Hilo v. Nemesis x Jerichi v. Hunnoterra)
SG Mazerati Grand Azaro
(Fan-Fan de Grande Vinko x Kalina Krasnaya Grand Azaro)
SG Megan Campagnanensis
(Bayron Campagnanensis x Quemada Campagnanensis)
SG Mia Milano Home
(Obi Wan Kenobi de Grande Vinko x Chantal Best of Milano)
SG Rosen Daker
(Maxim di Altobello x Peri Daker)
SG Secret Dreams of Sirius
(Oksamit de Grande Vinko x Sant Kreal Gegemonia)
SG Tigra de Badea Gheo
(Sant Kreal Zeus x Focus Psichoterapy)
SG Tsarina de Badea Gheo
(Sant Kreal Zeus x Focus Psichoterapy)
SG Vakita del Tibur
(Zylan Zais del Citone x Ghana Grim dei Sauli Grimaldi)
SG Venus del Mediano
(Teraline Midgard x Pandora del Mediano)
SG Veronika del Mediano
(Teraline Midgard x Pandora del Mediano)
absent Jamelia Elite House
(Pride of Russia Kaspij x Arizona Elite House)
absent Alison Alama de Grande Vinko
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Modus Ost Wis Wespera)
absent Arosa v. Fenris
(Hilo v. Nemesis x Jamaica v. Nemesis)
absent Hura dei Monti Cimini
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Unica di Casa Balestrieri)
absent Imidz Donna Roza
(Yacheero's Pando Pandero x Imidz Bella Ballada Dalores)
absent Liquirizia di Prisconte
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Halinka di Prisconte)
absent Livonijas Baronessa Naomi Noir
(Livonijas Baron Heart of Hamlet x Livonijas Baronessa Kingly Kassandra)
absent Peneloppe Nero di Altobello
(Maxim di Altobello x Sky Spirit di Altobello)
absent Reya di Casa Fox
(Hero di Casa Fox x Regina Quanita di Prisconte)
absent Tahi-Reme Neytiri
(Teraline Midgard x Tahi-Reme Ruthy)
absent Ulana Best of Island
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Britt Best of Island)
absent Unica Best of Island
(Ale'Alamos del Citone x Britt Best of Island)
TR Dali& Demi V4 CHAMPION CLASS owner ERIKA SOKOL
TR Giniti VeteranIDC sieger owner ERIKA SOKOL
Stella v Klingbach V1 working class owner Tomas Becht
INCREDIBLE. NO COMENT.
I don't think somebody will be hard to take a court trial against them. Dobermann people is not like this, unfortinately.
Duchessdush Squash v. Dockermann
The dog from Malaysia is Crystal Di Casa Giardino, although she was bred in Italy, but her owner is Malaysian.
http://www.dobermannsa.co.za/tahi-reme_uragano_at_bellstone.htm
Thank you Erika, we will do Tahi-Reme proud."
BY NIKKI REDTENBACHER
When I arrived at the IDC, during 30 minutes anyone told me the hole winning results. What a bullshit. We travel 1200 km to know who already will win. I pay me fee entry and the travel cost. Now I want to get my money back!!!
If there will not be soon a new organisation for IDC judges, it will be the last time which I was on a IDC.
For me everyone of them is corrupt instead of Erika Szokol. Thats my opinion!!!
We must fight against this, to get a democratic judging.
This is discrimination!!!!!.
There president nothing else do than drinking!!!!.
Peoples we have to fight else against the law what they want to do for future.
I NOT WANT UNCROPPED DOGS.
I WANT TO SHOW MY CROPPED DOGS EVERYWHERE. THIS IS PURE DISCRIMINATION!!!!!
SHAME YOU ALL!!!!
Hm and who we will ban from the new club? Who will decide the judges? The organisation? I can say about many person a lot of story. Storied are not known for others, and other stories are not known for me. So, who will decide?
Btw, you are right Mike about that we need a special new club and push out this judges to the garbage.
Dobermann is ours breed, not just they and they have no right to do what they do now.
I do not undestand !
Kyrana v Baravia: IDC JgSgin, BREEDER: WIBLISHAUSER. PINK LIP (AND coming from 2 Nemesis dogs)
Diva di oro Perlanera (last year IDC JgSgin), handler of Tahi reme dogs, a great friend of Szokol Erika OPEN CLASS WINNER with black blur on her legs and without any chest! PLUS LIGHT EYES (how it's possible she won last year???)
Wero di Altobello Intermediate class winner: with a lot of skin on his head, not doberman
Dixie Daytona di Arsomar IDCSgin (daughter of Ale Alamos del Citone) What a head type??? What eyes she have???? With marks on her legs...
Africa v Sentinel Hungary EXC3 in open class black females...with PINK LIP!!!
(we have to remember, her breeder is a great friend of Erika Szokol and on every hungarian show they are in dinners together with judges, etc)
My God! It's a joke? Dobergarden Forever Athos is a black adult IDCSG???? With this PINK LIP, with expression of rottweiler??? Congratulation!
Stella v. Klingbach Working class brown females winner - BREEDER: THOMAS BECHT ( I hope he is the owner too, in real life of course, not in catalog) Great expression, great position of eyes, etc.
Nill del Tibur - EXC3 in class, where for example Zedor del Nasi was not in the 4...Take a look his head!
Golan dei Nobili Nati - EXC3 in champion class. Oh yeah, Nobili Nati always must have some result, they are great friends of Pezzano..CHEST, HEAD
Tahi reme Giniti - owned by the JUDGE (Erika Szokol). Take a look how the handler pull her skin from the neck. Not a surpries that Szokol give for her dog the first place, not the first case in the life
Way out of West Blazing Expression - great PINK LIP on IDCSGin!!!
Angus di Prisconte - what to speak about him? Yeah, the breeder again a great friend of Pezzano!
i agree you about angus, cant be sieger..
What other faults can you find on Athos "no important" but his pink gums??? Expression of rottweiler - what are you talking about??? He is a great Sieger!
You told. On IDC there was more than 4 males.
"And Athos only continue his success on IDC.First he was IDC puppy Sieger, last year he was 1st in intermediate class and now IDC Sieger."
Yes. It's not mean anything...or mean something!
"All dogs have some faults, Athos have pink gums, his lips are black." OK, sorry, pink GUM. This is a VERY BIG fault in dobermann. Even if the judges are not ignoring. I remember when Pezzano and Wiblishauser kicked out dogs only because the pink gum...OK?
you know that cow stand is a big fault at dobermanns ? Look at Perlanera dogs !
http://www.dobermann-review.com/cop/thumbnails-392.html
and Juanita in same link
to watcher , look at
http://www.dobermannsa.co.za/dobermann_conformation_&_temperament.htm
It's from Miss Redtenbacher's site. look at :The angulation of a dobermann
You are absolutelly right.
http://www.dobermann-review.com/copermine_albums/2011-08-27_IDC2011/FabienLeDuff/FAB_3030.jpg
better train better with your dogs next year..
Better train :) , it was IPO or show, what for to train better ? If you believe that some needs to absolve 7 universities to present a dog in a show ring, you are wrong.
But maybe it'is not very good to promote dogs with problems...Just have a very dominant bitter taste after what happened at the show also with serbian dogs.
The main caracter of they judgement was the color of the eyes, the jaws,big dog-like head, they didn't payed attention for the legs and feets position, but the dobermann is a working dog so the legs are more important!With this kinde of judgement our lovely breed will loose the elegance and the dryness. How many finalis had cow positioned legs, short-skinny neck, soft feets.If we would like to save the breed we have to change the "IDC Lords"!
Some new question (but it's a bit personal), how possible Szokol is a judge, under the hungarian kennel club rules, only people with finished high school can be a judge. She never had high school degree.
Very Good
Yes, in your world how you write: "I think it is irrelevant if someone has or has not a high school degree to be a judge - the fact is she is a judge"
FOR YOU the fact is that these dogs win, the fact that they has the cups, so the fact is for you that they are the best dogs of the world. Congratulation!
No matter where you come in this dobermann world, so people talk bad about those who do well.
But this is probably just human!!!
It makes me a little sad anyway.
#20 - ASHIVA - 09/01/2011
It is owned by Malaysian, dog is Italian bred - Brown Females Champion. Crystal Casa Giardino. shes very very nice, but too bad it was Pezzano mafia judge..
my god!where is the elegance??this dog 4.place...
http://www.the-dobermann.com/images/stories/2011_WYSTAWY/IDC_2011/NATALIA_ROMANOVA/part_2/tahireme_dali.jpg
http://www.the-dobermann.com/images/stories/A_PRESENTATIONS_2/17.07.11/dla16.jpg
is the difference??
this dog made BOB!!!! in the hungary year show last year!
incredible...this is joke!
http://perlanera.hu/cassy/cassyhdk.jpg
it's fun to see some fuking stupid looser attacking some dogs.
if you have balls, better contact his breeder or owner.
I will run in the owner o breeder to see this dog....this dog withouth caracter not is my tipe...I'm sorry
But you understood nothing. I didn't atack anybody's dogs. Just wondering why they are winning almost all the time if there are better dogs in the show. Because he is near the fire ?
you are who??have you courage to scrive your name??unfortunatelly all is true what I scrived...this is shame...
Best regards!!
Thanks to him we are at one step to lost the unique fantastic character of Dobermanns and keep only health problems...I am still remember how dobermans was, before they end up them as they are right now ...,more clever accompanied with guard insticts,elegant(not molosoid)and most of all...love to be risky!!!!
I am Golan's owner.
Look at this link http://www.dobermann-review.com/males/Golan_dei_Nobili_Nati/index.php

you will see Golan's results. They are not attribuited personally by Dottor Pezzano.
Chest, Head ......there is everything!
Nicoletta Brembilla
WHO'S GOLAN???
I see in Golan's pedigree Gino. This is why you have written ? The point is not only about "who is judging".
Not everythin appeared from I have written. Do not know why
Not everything appeared from I have written. Do not know why
http://www.sidob.gportal.hu/gindex.php?pg=33696120
.....SO TRUE!!!!....
its time most people realise the truth.
"Save dobermans"....be carefull at your choises and mostly be youselves.Dont follow opinions from persons you entrust blindly cause of their reputation.
Everything that matters is the god dammed breed which need our help....No more fake IDC's...No more support to those Assassins.Let them alone and let the justice be free to crush em with her hammer.
Look at the german sheperd! if you don't stop this bullshit the dobermann will be as healthy as them!!
I'm only have since 1 year a dobi, but when i look at the most pedigrees i see the most times the same grandparents at sire and dam!!! you will now have good looking dogs(not always like standard, but "good looking") but in 10 years your genetic pool is done and you will have a lot ill dogs!
stop this and don't choose your males for breed after show titles!! the first always should be health and inbreed coeficient!!!
If something is wrong you have to stand up and do a new club, but it's always the same: there are a lot of people who want changes - but not much people who are able to lead them and do this changes!(sorry for the bad english)....
in part i agree with you " Idc results encourage SOME breeders to mate at some males", but i do not agree in criticizing individually dogs.
Nicoletta Brembilla
if you know my breeder you know GOLAN. Instead, WHO ARE YOU? Golan has the pedigree, AND YOU?
Nicoletta Brembilla
And I think the diversity of german sheperds is much more greater like at dobermanns and even so they have such a rule
Good Luck to all of you and may it work out better the next Time.
Not with me my next dog will not include one of this dog because i like dobermann for more than 10 years of age!!!
All other peolple will go one up to the point where the dogs died before they can mated and from this we have enough 20 % at time.
p.s. At the international dog show of Bergamo, your beach is not BOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think first that little man, everyone know, who it can be, all time stand in the shade of Gabriele.
Now he want to be king.
LOL LOL LOL
Get fast in your pension.